[OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF Digest, Vol 11, Issue 8
Valerie Taylor
vtaylor at gmail.com
Mon Nov 17 10:20:03 EST 2008
Setting expectations are really important. Last spring there were lots of
XOs being auctioned on eBay - that is how I got mine.
Another "selling" strategy could be - Give 1 to the central program that is
destined for a developing country, Give the second one to a local group that
will pass it along to kids in need close by. Perhaps even offer sessions so
donors could come and see what they are buying/donating and how it can be
used by these kids.
Lots of people are interested enough ot participate in the G1G1 program, but
don't actually want or need the second one. Or maybe want to see what all
the fuss is about, and then want it to go to a good home.
Any suggestions for making that process work would be really helpful.
It was clear that lots of people got one, realized they didn't want or need
it, but didn't have a good way to pass it along, once they made that
discovery. This could be a great opportunity for everyone.
..vt
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> 1. Re: Notes from Saturday's meeting (Sameer Verma) - XO for
> visually impaired (Wayan Vota | OLPC News)
> 2. Re: [Olpc-open] November meeting??? (Samuel Klein)
> 3. Re: [Olpc-open] G1G1 launch parties! (Carol Farlow Lerche)
> 4. Re: [Olpc-open] G1G1 launch parties! (Samuel Klein)
> 5. Re: [Olpc-open] G1G1 launch parties! (Carol Farlow Lerche)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:30:37 -0400
> From: Wayan Vota | OLPC News <wayan at olpcnews.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-SF] Notes from Saturday's meeting (Sameer Verma) -
> XO for visually impaired
> To: Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com>
> Cc: accessibility at lists.laptop.org, Christoph Derndorfer
> <christoph at olpcnews.com>, greg at laptop.org,
> olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org
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> I would suggest that the OLPC News Forum Assistive Technology Group
> would love to lead this. They can be found at:
> http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?board=66.0
>
> I know I'd love to post about either the need or the results of activity
> around this on OLPC News.
>
> Wayan
>
>
> Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Greg Smith <gregsmitholpc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi Sameer et al,
> >>
> >> I want to clarify a little on item #6 below.
> >>
> >> I wasn't suggesting Braille specifically. All I know is that there is a
> >> school in Addis Ababa with 20 - 30 visually impaired kids who have XOs.
> >> They asked if we have any software which would be useful for them.
> >>
> >> It could be anything (text to speech, braille, something else). I got
> >> several responses on the accessibility list for ideas.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I can't be the lead person coordinating this. I can make
> >> an occasional suggestion and help get you in touch with the school in
> >> Ethiopia if/when you have some software available.
> >
> > I can't be the lead either, but I can assist with software design,
> > including language support in TTS, and Amharic Braille encoding. There
> > are fairly expensive Braille input and output peripherals available.
> >
> >> If people are interested in working on this, my suggested steps are:
> >> 1 - Pick a person or two to coordinate the effort.
> >> 2 - Build a small group and identify skills (e.g. developers, testers,
> >> project managers, all around workers, etc)
> >> 3 - Start looking for target software to include or adapt and write new
> >> SW as needed.
> >> 4 - Test the software and show it works.
> >> 5 - Contact the school in Ethiopia and see if they are interested.
> >>
> >> Related threads include this on the accessibility list:
> >>
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/accessibility/2008-October/000198.html
> >>
> >> Maybe this one on Speech to text:
> >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/019136.html
> >>
> >> The first note here on community news about a group The Netherlands
> >> which may have experience with relevant software:
> >>
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/community-news/2008-October/000152.html
> >>
> >> Sorry to pass the buck. I'm not as free to work on whatever I please as
> >> I used to be. This project could create a very rewarding relationship
> >> between kids and developers, so the potential pay off is big. The only
> >> down side is that it will take a lot of hard work.
> >>
> >> I suggest that we do not contact the school at all until we have a very
> >> solid grip on what might be possible.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your interest and let me know how it goes.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Greg S
> >
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> OLPC-SF at lists.laptop.org
> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> -----------------------
>
> Wayan Vota
> Publisher
> OLPC News
> http://www.olpcnews.com
>
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>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:35:29 -0500
> From: "Samuel Klein" <meta.sj at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-SF] [Olpc-open] November meeting???
> To: "Sameer Verma" <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> Cc: olpc-open <olpc-open at lists.laptop.org>, "olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org
> SF" <olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org>, Grassroots OLPC
> <grassroots at lists.laptop.org>, olpc <india at lists.laptop.org>,
> "rihoward1 at gmail.com" <rihoward1 at gmail.com>
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> That's great. if you have a roundup for the gatherings the next week,
> that would be nice as well... we could organize an on-wiki
> presentation of the state of various local and grassroots projects and
> any related feature/bug requests.
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:58 PM, rihoward1 at gmail.com <rihoward1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Is the OLPC-SF November meeting on the schedule? If so when and
> where?
> >>
> >
> > OLPC-SF November meeting is confirmed for Nov 15 at 10 am. We have two
> > main items. I'll share my experiences with OLPC in India and Joachim
> > Pedersen will present on XO repair center at SF State. Any other items
> > are welcome. Let me know.
> >
> > Details at http://opensource.sfsu.edu/node/575
> >
> > Sameer
> > --
> > Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> > Associate Professor of Information Systems
> > San Francisco State University
> > San Francisco CA 94132 USA
> > http://verma.sfsu.edu/
> > http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Olpc-open mailing list
> > Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> >
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:37:14 -0800
> From: "Carol Farlow Lerche" <cafl at msbit.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-SF] [Olpc-open] G1G1 launch parties!
> To: "Sameer Verma" <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> Cc: olpc-open <olpc-open at lists.laptop.org>, Samuel Klein
> <meta.sj at gmail.com>, "olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org SF"
> <olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org>
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> I think public library children's sections, especially around story time
> and
> after school. Offer to do a special program for after school programs at
> public schools, aimed at early graders. Have a stack of flyers for them to
> take to their parents.
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I hear you. I don't know of anything in LA yet...
> > >
> > > SF will hopefully have a little something -- Sameer, what do you
> > > think? update us after your meeting tomorrow :-)
> > >
> >
> > We had our meeting today. Will post slides and photos in a bit.
> > Nothing planned for a release party as yet...just got off the plane
> > last night and still jetlagged. Here are some ideas:
> >
> > 1) show up at their neighborhood Starbucks and Borders stores in
> > groups toting their XOs :-)
> > 2) Take your XO with you wherever you go. To the restaurant, movie,
> > the park, etc.
> > 3) still thinking...
> >
> > Sameer
> >
> > > SJ
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Thom Uber <uberthom at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Looking for ANYTHING in Los Angeles
> > >>
> > >> On Nov 14, 2008 11:37 AM, "Samuel Klein" <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This is the weekend for G1G1 launch parties around the world.
> > >>
> > >> DC and SF are having regularly scheduled meetings (though I don't know
> > >> what they are doing sunday night -- come party with us!), and here in
> > >> Cambridge the Boston-area OLPC community are hosting a Ground Zero
> > >> G1G1 party, to celebrate the birthday of the 567,890th XO and the
> > >> one-year anniversary of the xo giving program.
> > >>
> > >> It seems we've just grown out of the original venue planned for the
> > >> event, so I'm doing a quick check to see who will be in town and
> > >> interested in a little Pantone 361-tinted celebration, to help reserve
> > >> a suitable place.
> > >>
> > >> If you are
> > >> * going to be within 100km of Cambridge this Sunday
> > >> * considering coming to our party
> > >> * no longer on the FBI's Most Wanted list (we don't want to get shut
> > >> down again)
> > >>
> > >> Please send me an offlist email with "G1G1 party" in the subject line,
> > >> the # of people you'd be bringing, and your probability of attending.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> SJ
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Olpc-open mailing list
> > >> Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> > >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Olpc-open mailing list
> > > Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
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> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:55:00 -0500
> From: "Samuel Klein" <meta.sj at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-SF] [Olpc-open] G1G1 launch parties!
> To: "Sameer Verma" <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> Cc: olpc-open <olpc-open at lists.laptop.org>, Grassroots OLPC
> <grassroots at lists.laptop.org>, Carol Farlow Lerche <cafl at msbit.com
> >,
> "olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org SF" <olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org>
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> I would start with a simple update to the current trifold and
> one-sheet introductions at [[Flyers]] that mentions g1g1 -- everyone's
> been asking for this.
>
> having a batch of laptops that people can use to learn Sudoku or
> Bridge would be a nice exercise. Walking through the intro to etoys
> likewise. I'm still unhappy with yoshiki that the Castle level of
> that intro hasn't been made...
>
> SJ
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche <cafl at msbit.com>
> wrote:
> >> I think public library children's sections, especially around story time
> and
> >> after school.
> >
> > What activities would you suggest at these locations?
> >
> >> Offer to do a special program for after school programs at
> >> public schools, aimed at early graders. Have a stack of flyers for them
> to
> >> take to their parents.
> >
> > Great idea. Again, what would you suggest that we put on these flyers?
> > I can help put something together that can be used by others who wish
> > to run similar programs/presentations.
> >
> > Sameer
> >
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> > I hear you. I don't know of anything in LA yet...
> >>> >
> >>> > SF will hopefully have a little something -- Sameer, what do you
> >>> > think? update us after your meeting tomorrow :-)
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> We had our meeting today. Will post slides and photos in a bit.
> >>> Nothing planned for a release party as yet...just got off the plane
> >>> last night and still jetlagged. Here are some ideas:
> >>>
> >>> 1) show up at their neighborhood Starbucks and Borders stores in
> >>> groups toting their XOs :-)
> >>> 2) Take your XO with you wherever you go. To the restaurant, movie,
> >>> the park, etc.
> >>> 3) still thinking...
> >>>
> >>> Sameer
> >>>
> >>> > SJ
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Thom Uber <uberthom at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >> Looking for ANYTHING in Los Angeles
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Nov 14, 2008 11:37 AM, "Samuel Klein" <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This is the weekend for G1G1 launch parties around the world.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> DC and SF are having regularly scheduled meetings (though I don't
> know
> >>> >> what they are doing sunday night -- come party with us!), and here
> in
> >>> >> Cambridge the Boston-area OLPC community are hosting a Ground Zero
> >>> >> G1G1 party, to celebrate the birthday of the 567,890th XO and the
> >>> >> one-year anniversary of the xo giving program.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It seems we've just grown out of the original venue planned for the
> >>> >> event, so I'm doing a quick check to see who will be in town and
> >>> >> interested in a little Pantone 361-tinted celebration, to help
> reserve
> >>> >> a suitable place.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> If you are
> >>> >> * going to be within 100km of Cambridge this Sunday
> >>> >> * considering coming to our party
> >>> >> * no longer on the FBI's Most Wanted list (we don't want to get
> shut
> >>> >> down again)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Please send me an offlist email with "G1G1 party" in the subject
> line,
> >>> >> the # of people you'd be bringing, and your probability of
> attending.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks!
> >>> >> SJ
> >>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>> >> Olpc-open mailing list
> >>> >> Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> >>> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> >>> >>
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > Olpc-open mailing list
> >>> > Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> >>> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> >>> >
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Olpc-open mailing list
> >>> Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> "Don't think for a minute that power concedes. We have to work like our
> >> future depends on it." -- Barack Obama
> >>
> >
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:05:14 -0800
> From: "Carol Farlow Lerche" <cafl at msbit.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-SF] [Olpc-open] G1G1 launch parties!
> To: "Sameer Verma" <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> Cc: olpc-open <olpc-open at lists.laptop.org>, Samuel Klein
> <meta.sj at gmail.com>, "olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org SF"
> <olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org>
> Message-ID:
> <c856d2f0811152005v14099f91k31a09d87455e7afd at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> My experience tells me that younger kids are fascinated by chat (if there
> are multiple xos) and record, and they like the cartoon builder, speak, and
> the puzzles. I just upgraded my xos to the new release -- sadly, my day job
> and family issues intervened -- and am systematically trying the latest
> versions of activities. I plan to try my theory out in my kids' old k8
> school and our local library. As a Life Member of Girl Scouts and an ex
> leader, I thought of offering to come to assorted Brownie and Junior
> meetings as well. But we'll see how the first few go. I feel that we are
> still not quite production quality for unsupervised use by very young kids,
> and older kids here in Silicon Valley may be too jaded by having fast, new
> computers at home.
>
> I want to offer a parent-child meet-up so that parents know what they are
> getting this time and there isn't so much aggravation. I'd like to set up
> a
> dual boot with the other boot being Debian or Ubuntu with media codecs and
> Skype installed, to show its utility as a mobile laptop to the parents.I
> also think we need to emphasize the "Give 1" half of the equation.
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche <cafl at msbit.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I think public library children's sections, especially around story
> time
> > and
> > > after school.
> >
> > What activities would you suggest at these locations?
> >
> > > Offer to do a special program for after school programs at
> > > public schools, aimed at early graders. Have a stack of flyers for
> them
> > to
> > > take to their parents.
> >
> > Great idea. Again, what would you suggest that we put on these flyers?
> > I can help put something together that can be used by others who wish
> > to run similar programs/presentations.
> >
> > Sameer
> >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > I hear you. I don't know of anything in LA yet...
> > >> >
> > >> > SF will hopefully have a little something -- Sameer, what do you
> > >> > think? update us after your meeting tomorrow :-)
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> We had our meeting today. Will post slides and photos in a bit.
> > >> Nothing planned for a release party as yet...just got off the plane
> > >> last night and still jetlagged. Here are some ideas:
> > >>
> > >> 1) show up at their neighborhood Starbucks and Borders stores in
> > >> groups toting their XOs :-)
> > >> 2) Take your XO with you wherever you go. To the restaurant, movie,
> > >> the park, etc.
> > >> 3) still thinking...
> > >>
> > >> Sameer
> > >>
> > >> > SJ
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Thom Uber <uberthom at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> Looking for ANYTHING in Los Angeles
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Nov 14, 2008 11:37 AM, "Samuel Klein" <meta.sj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> This is the weekend for G1G1 launch parties around the world.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> DC and SF are having regularly scheduled meetings (though I don't
> > know
> > >> >> what they are doing sunday night -- come party with us!), and here
> in
> > >> >> Cambridge the Boston-area OLPC community are hosting a Ground Zero
> > >> >> G1G1 party, to celebrate the birthday of the 567,890th XO and the
> > >> >> one-year anniversary of the xo giving program.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It seems we've just grown out of the original venue planned for the
> > >> >> event, so I'm doing a quick check to see who will be in town and
> > >> >> interested in a little Pantone 361-tinted celebration, to help
> > reserve
> > >> >> a suitable place.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If you are
> > >> >> * going to be within 100km of Cambridge this Sunday
> > >> >> * considering coming to our party
> > >> >> * no longer on the FBI's Most Wanted list (we don't want to get
> shut
> > >> >> down again)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Please send me an offlist email with "G1G1 party" in the subject
> > line,
> > >> >> the # of people you'd be bringing, and your probability of
> attending.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks!
> > >> >> SJ
> > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > >> >> Olpc-open mailing list
> > >> >> Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> > >> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> > >> >>
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Olpc-open mailing list
> > >> > Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> > >> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> > >> >
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Olpc-open mailing list
> > >> Olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
> > >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Don't think for a minute that power concedes. We have to work like our
> > > future depends on it." -- Barack Obama
> > >
> >
>
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