[Wikireader] english wikireaders and 0.7

[Martin Pascal]

Yes Sj ,

you could join #kiwix on irc.freenode.net
Cordialement
Martin Pascal
tel : 02 32 40 23 69, fax : 02 32 61 45 26
gsm : 06 13 89 77 32
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Walker" <walkerma at potsdam.edu>
To: "Samuel Klein" <sj at laptop.org>
Cc: "Madeleine Ball" <mad at printf.net>; "Offline Wikireaders" 
<wikireader at lists.laptop.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikireader] english wikireaders and 0.7


> SJ,
>
> I can manage an IRC meeting on Friday - say at 3pm EDT (1900h UTC)?  If
> this is difficult for others, I will be around next week.  We have the
> #wikipedia-1.0 channel ( irc://irc.freenode.net/#wikipedia-1.0 ) if you
> wish, but perhaps you have a wikireader channel that may be more
> appropriate?
>
> Martin
>
>
> Samuel Klein wrote:
>> @martin -- How about having a Friday afternoon wikireader meeting?
>> For this week, whether or not we meet, a pressing question is :
>> Generating the main page.  For the spanish WP, Madeleine did most of
>> the main page by hand with a bit of help.  We may have to do the same
>> here until better scripts are set up.
>>
>> A couple people built the main page for our spanish-language bundle
>> more or less by hand from a portal template.
>>
>> Metadata :
>>
>> 1. metadata that is currently particularly useful for us is:
>>  - a blacklist of article titles, and a blacklist of images, for the
>> very few that we explicitly leave out despite other metadata
>>  - a whitelist of both, again to ensure inclusion.
>>
>> 2. In a general system, I'd like to see this tagged with the name of
>> the group associated; say olpc-peru-blacklist and olpc-peru-whitelist.
>>
>> @cfabian -- testing this on bee units sounds like a fun test of the
>> metadata slimming!
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> ps - any news from the offline spanish wp project that got started a
>> while back?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Martin Walker <walkerma at potsdam.edu
>> <mailto:walkerma at potsdam.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>     Things are looking very promising for the Version 0.7 selection -
>>     we should have a complete article list within a week or so,
>>     containing about 30,000 articles organized by a combination of
>>     quality and importance.  With our basic system of compression ,
>>     using I think probably Zeno format), I believe we should be able
>>     to include 30,000 long-ish articles with thumbnails on one DVD,
>>     along with Kiwix and some index pages.  I'd be interested to see
>>     how it would work with your compression system - we could get a
>>     few people to test that, I think.
>>
>>     I know how you love metadata, SJ, and we now have loads of it
>>     (from 1.4 million articles) - so we can customize the selection
>>     for you at will using quality, wikiproject, or the four importance
>>     paramaters.  Since this is for kids in specific places, we can
>>     emphasize dinosaurs or birds, exclude serial killers, or include
>>     all articles from (say) Uganda, all as requested.  Let me know if
>>     this feature is useful.  We don't have an equivalent ranking for
>>     images, I'm afraid - for V0.7 we just include all legal images (as
>>     thumbnails).  As for a "main page", the plan is to have a set of
>>     index pages generated by bot and then corrected by a manual
>>     "reality check", but that will take another month or two.
>>
>>     I'd really like to make sure that we make sure we work together in
>>     the coming months, because I think we can avoid a lot of duplicate
>>     work if we share our best resources, scripts, etc.  Once the
>>     selection is done (~ 1st Sept), should we hold an IRC discussion
>>     on how we can best collaborate?
>>
>>     Martin
>>
>>
>>     Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>>         There's lots of motivation to get an english wikireader, say,
>>         taking advantage of the article selection and processing of 0.7 .
>>         OLPC could include this in the upcoming G1G1 machines this
>>         winter / early next year.  Other users could test wikireaders
>>         that read this zipped format on their own machines, which
>>         would flesh out the reader code.
>>
>>         Martin -- what's the status on the 0.7 articlelist?  Do you
>>         have a similar imagelist that ranks images by importance to
>>         that set of articles?
>>         How is work on a 0.7 main page?  I'd love to see how large a
>>         snapshot is with our curent wikireader code (without even
>>         moving to 7z, or trimming the list).
>>
>>         SJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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