[Wikireader] english wikireaders and 0.7

Martin Walker walkerma at potsdam.edu
Thu Aug 28 12:16:18 EDT 2008


SJ,

I can manage an IRC meeting on Friday - say at 3pm EDT (1900h UTC)?  If 
this is difficult for others, I will be around next week.  We have the 
#wikipedia-1.0 channel ( irc://irc.freenode.net/#wikipedia-1.0 ) if you 
wish, but perhaps you have a wikireader channel that may be more 
appropriate?

Martin


Samuel Klein wrote:
> @martin -- How about having a Friday afternoon wikireader meeting?
> For this week, whether or not we meet, a pressing question is : 
> Generating the main page.  For the spanish WP, Madeleine did most of 
> the main page by hand with a bit of help.  We may have to do the same 
> here until better scripts are set up.
>
> A couple people built the main page for our spanish-language bundle 
> more or less by hand from a portal template.
>
> Metadata :
>
> 1. metadata that is currently particularly useful for us is:
>  - a blacklist of article titles, and a blacklist of images, for the 
> very few that we explicitly leave out despite other metadata
>  - a whitelist of both, again to ensure inclusion.
>
> 2. In a general system, I'd like to see this tagged with the name of 
> the group associated; say olpc-peru-blacklist and olpc-peru-whitelist.
>
> @cfabian -- testing this on bee units sounds like a fun test of the 
> metadata slimming!
>
> SJ
>
> ps - any news from the offline spanish wp project that got started a 
> while back?
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Martin Walker <walkerma at potsdam.edu 
> <mailto:walkerma at potsdam.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Things are looking very promising for the Version 0.7 selection -
>     we should have a complete article list within a week or so,
>     containing about 30,000 articles organized by a combination of
>     quality and importance.  With our basic system of compression ,
>     using I think probably Zeno format), I believe we should be able
>     to include 30,000 long-ish articles with thumbnails on one DVD,
>     along with Kiwix and some index pages.  I'd be interested to see
>     how it would work with your compression system - we could get a
>     few people to test that, I think.
>
>     I know how you love metadata, SJ, and we now have loads of it
>     (from 1.4 million articles) - so we can customize the selection
>     for you at will using quality, wikiproject, or the four importance
>     paramaters.  Since this is for kids in specific places, we can
>     emphasize dinosaurs or birds, exclude serial killers, or include
>     all articles from (say) Uganda, all as requested.  Let me know if
>     this feature is useful.  We don't have an equivalent ranking for
>     images, I'm afraid - for V0.7 we just include all legal images (as
>     thumbnails).  As for a "main page", the plan is to have a set of
>     index pages generated by bot and then corrected by a manual
>     "reality check", but that will take another month or two.
>
>     I'd really like to make sure that we make sure we work together in
>     the coming months, because I think we can avoid a lot of duplicate
>     work if we share our best resources, scripts, etc.  Once the
>     selection is done (~ 1st Sept), should we hold an IRC discussion
>     on how we can best collaborate?
>
>     Martin
>
>
>     Samuel Klein wrote:
>
>         There's lots of motivation to get an english wikireader, say,
>         taking advantage of the article selection and processing of 0.7 .
>         OLPC could include this in the upcoming G1G1 machines this
>         winter / early next year.  Other users could test wikireaders
>         that read this zipped format on their own machines, which
>         would flesh out the reader code.
>
>         Martin -- what's the status on the 0.7 articlelist?  Do you
>         have a similar imagelist that ranks images by importance to
>         that set of articles?
>         How is work on a 0.7 main page?  I'd love to see how large a
>         snapshot is with our curent wikireader code (without even
>         moving to 7z, or trimming the list).
>
>         SJ
>
>
>
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