[Wikireader] english wikireaders and 0.7

[Samuel Klein]

ok, let's meet friday at 1500 EST  on #kiwix on freenode,
for those who can make it, to discuss making a main page for an english 0.7
wikipedia bundle.

SJ

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Martin Pascal <pmartin at linterweb.com>wrote:

> Yes Sj ,
>
> you could join #kiwix on irc.freenode.net
> Cordialement
> Martin Pascal
> tel : 02 32 40 23 69, fax : 02 32 61 45 26
> gsm : 06 13 89 77 32
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Walker" <walkerma at potsdam.edu>
> To: "Samuel Klein" <sj at laptop.org>
> Cc: "Madeleine Ball" <mad at printf.net>; "Offline Wikireaders" <
> wikireader at lists.laptop.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Wikireader] english wikireaders and 0.7
>
>
>  SJ,
>>
>> I can manage an IRC meeting on Friday - say at 3pm EDT (1900h UTC)?  If
>> this is difficult for others, I will be around next week.  We have the
>> #wikipedia-1.0 channel ( irc://irc.freenode.net/#wikipedia-1.0 ) if you
>> wish, but perhaps you have a wikireader channel that may be more
>> appropriate?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>>> @martin -- How about having a Friday afternoon wikireader meeting?
>>> For this week, whether or not we meet, a pressing question is :
>>> Generating the main page.  For the spanish WP, Madeleine did most of
>>> the main page by hand with a bit of help.  We may have to do the same
>>> here until better scripts are set up.
>>>
>>> A couple people built the main page for our spanish-language bundle
>>> more or less by hand from a portal template.
>>>
>>> Metadata :
>>>
>>> 1. metadata that is currently particularly useful for us is:
>>>  - a blacklist of article titles, and a blacklist of images, for the
>>> very few that we explicitly leave out despite other metadata
>>>  - a whitelist of both, again to ensure inclusion.
>>>
>>> 2. In a general system, I'd like to see this tagged with the name of
>>> the group associated; say olpc-peru-blacklist and olpc-peru-whitelist.
>>>
>>> @cfabian -- testing this on bee units sounds like a fun test of the
>>> metadata slimming!
>>>
>>> SJ
>>>
>>> ps - any news from the offline spanish wp project that got started a
>>> while back?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Martin Walker <walkerma at potsdam.edu
>>> <mailto:walkerma at potsdam.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Things are looking very promising for the Version 0.7 selection -
>>>    we should have a complete article list within a week or so,
>>>    containing about 30,000 articles organized by a combination of
>>>    quality and importance.  With our basic system of compression ,
>>>    using I think probably Zeno format), I believe we should be able
>>>    to include 30,000 long-ish articles with thumbnails on one DVD,
>>>    along with Kiwix and some index pages.  I'd be interested to see
>>>    how it would work with your compression system - we could get a
>>>    few people to test that, I think.
>>>
>>>    I know how you love metadata, SJ, and we now have loads of it
>>>    (from 1.4 million articles) - so we can customize the selection
>>>    for you at will using quality, wikiproject, or the four importance
>>>    paramaters.  Since this is for kids in specific places, we can
>>>    emphasize dinosaurs or birds, exclude serial killers, or include
>>>    all articles from (say) Uganda, all as requested.  Let me know if
>>>    this feature is useful.  We don't have an equivalent ranking for
>>>    images, I'm afraid - for V0.7 we just include all legal images (as
>>>    thumbnails).  As for a "main page", the plan is to have a set of
>>>    index pages generated by bot and then corrected by a manual
>>>    "reality check", but that will take another month or two.
>>>
>>>    I'd really like to make sure that we make sure we work together in
>>>    the coming months, because I think we can avoid a lot of duplicate
>>>    work if we share our best resources, scripts, etc.  Once the
>>>    selection is done (~ 1st Sept), should we hold an IRC discussion
>>>    on how we can best collaborate?
>>>
>>>    Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>    Samuel Klein wrote:
>>>
>>>        There's lots of motivation to get an english wikireader, say,
>>>        taking advantage of the article selection and processing of 0.7 .
>>>        OLPC could include this in the upcoming G1G1 machines this
>>>        winter / early next year.  Other users could test wikireaders
>>>        that read this zipped format on their own machines, which
>>>        would flesh out the reader code.
>>>
>>>        Martin -- what's the status on the 0.7 articlelist?  Do you
>>>        have a similar imagelist that ranks images by importance to
>>>        that set of articles?
>>>        How is work on a 0.7 main page?  I'd love to see how large a
>>>        snapshot is with our curent wikireader code (without even
>>>        moving to 7z, or trimming the list).
>>>
>>>        SJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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