[Server-devel] Pungi minimal installer, comps.xml trick

[Jerry Vonau]

Jeff wrote:
> On 27 Aug 2008, at 4:09 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> 
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> On 27 Aug 2008, at 10:21 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Jeff <jeff at wildcoast.com> wrote:
>>>>> Why? What's wrong with writing the image to a DVD?
>>>>
>>>> Don't worry about the CD :-)
>>>
>>> But I do. I'm worried that you may be applying first world standards and
>>> expect the deployment sites to run off and download, oh for example,
>>> Java, GCC, and a bunch of other essential tools, whereas the install
>>> distro should include them as a matter of course.
>>>
>> On what is more or less a pre-configured setup? Why, what is missing
>> from the stock build?
> 
> I don't know yet. I'm busy downloading the ISO on an Edge connection. 
> 6h45 remaining, and about half my cap : (
> 
> My knee-jerk was why the install image should be restricted to a single CD.
> 
Bandwidth maybe? ~500meg to get up and running. You want to add on 
packages it's on your bill only...

>> Compiling should never be done on a server IMHO that is what your
>> workstation is for. If the server was cracked, I'm not going to give it
>> more tools to do more damage.
> 
> Fair point.
> 
>>> So I'm asking again: why a single CD? This isn't Ubuntu shipping off a
>>> million copies of the latest distro for free, so why the self-imposed
>>> minimalist constraint?
>>>
>>
>> Once the rpm is cleaned up I can see it becoming part of fedora much
>> like what LTSP has done. This is a "spin" of fedora, not a distro, your
>> free to install what you like, but that is your choice, not everybody's.
> 
> That makes sense, thanks. but unless I misunderstand, there are 2 things 
> going on here:
> 
> 1. a live/install image with FC7 and OLPC/XS packages preselected
> 2. separate OLPC/XS rpm packages which will be downloadable from Fedora 
> or OLPC repositories
> 

Well yes, the xs-rpms form the bases of the livecd. The livecd was 
chosen for the initial roll-out. Now comes the work of upgrading to F9, 
and livecd don't do upgrades on existing installs. The upgrade/install 
cd that is coming will have what is needed to upgrade a stock xs install 
or do a fresh one.

If you already have fedora install disks, you could have a kickstart 
file with the XS repo enabled, list xs-config and friends rpms to be 
installed, even on a dvd/cd based install, downloading just the XS stuff 
from the net.


> I still don't see the point of being restricted to CD when that means 
> throwing out packages which may (or may not) be useful on school servers 
> in remote areas.
> 
Your not restricted, you can install what you want from a fedora repo, 
install disk, or your own repo, just later. If you think something 
should be included by default speak up, it's an open forum.

> OTOH access to package repositories could be a regionalized function 
> along with the provision of library material, I guess.
> 
Sure, just make it into an rpm, different content, different rpm. 
Install what you like/need.

> Sorry if I'm OT: my main interest is content and use case scenarios for 
> XS-XO deployments which can also be implemented for the current rollout 
> of NetDay servers in SA. Kind of a dual purpose mission. Can't seem to 
> find much on the wiki about the XS Library, though. (Pointers will be 
> much appreciated.)
> 
Sorry, can't help there..

> Anyway. I hope I can help out here somewhere, somehow.

Jerry