[Sur] [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB motion

[Walter Bender]

Please excuse the top post.

I'd like to bring some clarity to the discussion of this motion. As most of
you know, Sugar Labs is a member project of the Software Freedom
Conservancy. The Conservancy has well-established guidelines for travel,
and the travel plans in the proposal accompanying the motion are well
within these guidelines. So while I appreciate Adam's help in reducing the
costs of Samson's trip, I think those efforts are a distraction from the
motion itself, which, at its essence is a proposal to attend the Scratch
conference as an invited speaker on behalf of Sugar Labs. I have confidence
that with Adam's help, the costs may well be less than the < US$800 stated
in the motion, but what about the motion? Is there someone who will second
it so we can vote?

regards.

-walter

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Jun 1, 2017 1:28 PM, "Adam Holt" <holt at laptop.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This would set a terrible precedent for Sugar Labs to pay $800 for a
>> visa alone.
>>
>> Flight and other things connected.
>>
>>
> All for the sake of 1 visa alone, let's hope it happens (sorry you're
> flying instead of taking the new train from Port Harcourt to Lagos isn't
> ready yet...)
>
> Strange that my parents spent an important part of their lives teaching
>>  in Nigeria and I happen to know more about modern Lagos (where Samson
>> would apply for his French govt visa) than a steady stream of hyperbolic
>> claims have insinuated.
>>
>>
>> I am a Nigerian, you are not.
>>
>>
> Luckily they charge the same price regardless our ethnicity here at this
> $~19/night room in good proximity to the French Embassy in Lagos: (Lekki,
> by Lagos Island, I know it well)
>
>    http://airbnb.com/rooms/13639701
>
> Air/conditioning, Internet, Amenities etc...I don't spend this much myself
> but there are in fact options in every price range.
>
> Staying a  standard hotel, is and always be the best option for me. I am
> not an adult yet technically, the street in Lagos is not meant for people
> like me.
>
> Meaning i can't use this service, only hotels. My parents wouldn't even
> let me try it.
>
> It may sound crazy but that how it is.
>
>
> Things are crazy expensive in Nigeria.
>>
>>
> Nigeria has a truly great sense of humor and Nigerians are more
> resourceful than most imagine.
>
> Yeah we all are, but the government isn't.
>
>
> As such I will continue to vote My Conscience -- *AGAINST THIS MOTION
>> with respect for all and malice toward none* -- up until the point where:
>>
>> 1) The total is reduced to $500 (receipts provided per SFConservancy
>> policies).
>>
>> If $800 can't be given to me, i am okay with  $500-600. Just that it
>> will make me use lot of my savings i have been keeping for my internet
>> plan. Half is better than none.
>>
>>
> Thanks much Samson for being understanding and honoring all who wish they
> had this opportunity!
>
>
>> 2) It is clarified in writing (within the motion or nearby) what happens
>> if the money disappears, if the French Govt insists on rejecting Samson's
>> visa application.  (In short: would Sugar Labs or Scratch pay this up-to-
>> $500 ?)
>>
>>
> The motion needs to quickly clarify the above.
>
> Frankly, there is no need for this. I said Sugar Labs is not going to give
> me any money or support me until i have my visa that hand. This motion is
> purely for reimbursement.
>
> You made it clear that SL might lose money. So this is how i tend to
> prevent that. I am going to use my personal savings with so little support
> with the scratch community. Then get reimbursed if i am successful.
>
>
> Onwards & Upwards ~
>
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Walter Bender
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