<div dir="ltr">Please excuse the top post.<div><br></div><div>I'd like to bring some clarity to the discussion of this motion. As most of you know, Sugar Labs is a member project of the Software Freedom Conservancy. The Conservancy has well-established guidelines for travel, and the travel plans in the proposal accompanying the motion are well within these guidelines. So while I appreciate Adam's help in reducing the costs of Samson's trip, I think those efforts are a distraction from the motion itself, which, at its essence is a proposal to attend the Scratch conference as an invited speaker on behalf of Sugar Labs. I have confidence that with Adam's help, the costs may well be less than the < US$800 stated in the motion, but what about the motion? Is there someone who will second it so we can vote?</div><div><br></div><div>regards.</div><div><br></div><div>-walter</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span class=""><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 1, 2017 1:28 PM, "Adam Holt" <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="m_-3494524747493475665quoted-text">On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="m_-3494524747493475665quoted-text"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><div>This would set a terrible precedent for Sugar Labs to pay <span class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411money">$800</span> for a visa alone.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">Flight and other things connected.</div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>All for the sake of 1 visa alone, let's hope it happens (sorry you're flying instead of taking the new train from Port Harcourt to Lagos isn't ready yet...)<br><br></div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665quoted-text"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><div>Strange that my parents spent an important part of their lives teaching in Nigeria and I happen to know more about modern Lagos (where Samson would apply for his French govt visa) than a steady stream of hyperbolic claims have insinuated.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">I am a Nigerian, you are not.</div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br><div>Luckily they charge the same price regardless our ethnicity here at this $~19/night room in good proximity to the French Embassy in
Lagos: (Lekki, by Lagos Island, I know it well)<br><br> <a href="http://airbnb.com/rooms/13639701" target="_blank">http://airbnb.com/rooms/136397<wbr>01</a><br><br></div><div>Air/conditioning, Internet, Amenities etc...I don't spend this much myself but there are in fact options in every price range.<br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span><div dir="auto">Staying a standard hotel, is and always be the best option for me. I am not an adult yet technically, the street in Lagos is not meant for people like me.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Meaning i can't use this service, only hotels. My parents wouldn't even let me try it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It may sound crazy but that how it is.</div><span class=""><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div><br></div></div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665quoted-text"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">Things are crazy expensive in Nigeria.</div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>Nigeria has a truly great sense of humor and Nigerians are more resourceful than most imagine.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span><div dir="auto">Yeah we all are, but the government isn't.</div><span class=""><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665quoted-text"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><div>As such I will continue to vote My Conscience -- <i>AGAINST THIS MOTION with respect for all and malice toward none</i> -- up until the point where:<br><br></div><div>1) The total is reduced to <span class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411money">$500</span> (receipts provided per SFConservancy policies).<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">If <span class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411money">$800</span> can't be given to me, i am okay with $500-600. Just that it will make me use lot of my savings i have been keeping for my internet plan. Half is better than none.</div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Thanks much Samson for being understanding and honoring all who wish they had this opportunity!<br></div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665quoted-text"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411elided-text"><div></div><div>2) It is clarified in writing (within the motion or nearby) what happens if the money disappears, if the French Govt insists on rejecting Samson's visa application. (In short: would Sugar Labs or Scratch pay this up-to-<span class="m_-3494524747493475665m_-3144220155396812971gmail-m_4771798716534985411money">$500</span> ?)<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>The motion needs to quickly clarify the above.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span><div dir="auto">Frankly, there is no need for this. I said Sugar Labs is not going to give me any money or support me until i have my visa that hand. This motion is purely for reimbursement.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You made it clear that SL might lose money. So this is how i tend to prevent that. I am going to use my personal savings with so little support with the scratch community. Then get reimbursed if i am successful.</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3494524747493475665quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Onwards & Upwards ~</div></div></div></div><span class="">
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