[OLPC-SF] What To Do When You Get Your XO ... continuing

Thu Jun 5 12:40:30 EDT 2008

Valerie,

I hope I did not sound too testy but there have been a lot of  
deliberate misinformation posted on various fora (or is it fori).
  If you look at the top of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Getting_Started  
you will see the sentence "There is also a 'community-maintained User  
Guide' on the wiki" . Click on 'community-maintained User Guide' and  
this will take you a decent guide which includes links on using the  
activities etc. on which you can drill down for enhanced  
information.  I actually added the bold to community-maintained User  
Guide to make it more obvious that the link was there. Got to go to  
work so will not respond until tonight.

regards,

RH

On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote:

> Please don't misunderstand. I'm trying to help...
>
> Most of the XOs for sale on eBay are folks who contributed to the G1G1
> program, got theirs and had no idea what to do next. Too bad, as they
> feel frustrated and are not as supported of the OLPC project as they
> were when they paid their $400.
>
> BTW I bought a "cast off" on eBay. I knew a lot about the project, the
> computer, the software and the online resources including the wiki, so
> I'm ok but clearly others are struggling.
>
> Good suggestion - I'll do a table of contents / new G1G1 user guide,
> for folks who are looking for some "now what?"  and "so what?"
> answers. I'll add it to the wiki. Comments, content and other
> suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
> ..vt
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Robert Howard <rihoward at rawbw.com>  
> wrote:
>> Valerie,
>>
>> Those sites are fine.  They give you everything you need to get  
>> going or are
>> you one of those people that needs to be spoon fed ? The XO is  
>> supposed to
>> be about exploring and leaning, not rote training.   There is  
>> already many
>> pages of useful information at the official wiki.  If you want to do
>> something useful you could start a table of contents that link to the
>> various sections of the wiki.
>>
>> http://frombob.to/XO/ had nothing original in it except for the bad
>> information and was a collection of reposts from else where that  
>> had not
>> been peered review. That is the problem with work that is not peer  
>> reviewed.
>>  A couple of people tried to get in touch with the http:// 
>> frombob.to/XO/ web
>> site owner when it was up to get it fixed but there was no contact
>> information available. Your insistence on wanting to post bad  
>> information
>>  from  http://frombob.to/XO/ to the wiki suggests either hubris on  
>> your part
>> or even worse.  I suspect worse as why else would you want to post
>> information which result in a crippled XO ?
>>
>> /rh
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> I checked the sites you suggest but they didn't get someone going -
>>> too basic or way too much detail for the Givers of the G1G1 program.
>>> It is about first impressions.
>>>
>>> What To Do When You Get Your XO covered the topic well, even if  
>>> there
>>> were problems with the actual content - which is why it should be
>>> public on the wiki.
>>>
>>> ..vt
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: rihoward1 at gmail.com <rihoward1 at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [OLPC-SF] What To Do When You Get Your XO
>>> To: Valerie Taylor <vtaylor at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "rihoward1 at gmail.com" <rihoward1 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not even going to go into the specific problems with that  
>>> website
>>> other than to say that some of the advice there was so bad it could
>>> lead you to having permanent problems with the laptop. It was so  
>>> bad I
>>> found it offensive.
>>>
>>> The leaflet the comes with XO has enough information to get you
>>> started. including a URL for more information
>>> http://laptop.org/en/laptop/start
>>> Also you can find information at
>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Getting_Started .  In a school deployment
>>> there would be some support at the early stages.  The idea is for  
>>> the
>>> community to take part and share.
>>>
>>> /rh
>>>
>>> On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Valerie Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> You say http://frombob.to/XO/ web page has disappeared as it had
>>>>>
>>>>> some dreadful advice
>>>>
>>>> I can' t find it and don't remember the specifics. What was so bad?
>>>> What do you suggest that would be more appropriate?
>>>>
>>>> It is pretty frustrating to get that little green machine out of  
>>>> the
>>>> shipping box and then have no idea what to do next.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the specific suggestions had problems, but there should be
>>>> something that is the Readme.. It needs to be easily accessible and
>>>> linked from the "obvious" locations that someone will check first.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't ever find anything else that addressed these needs.
>>>>
>>>> ..vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:49 PM, rihoward1 at gmail.com  
>>>> <rihoward1 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am glad that the http://frombob.to/XO/ web page has  
>>>>> disappeared as it
>>>>> had
>>>>> some dreadful advice and I mean absolutely dreadful advice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert H.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a great resource page - What To Do When You Get Your XO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/community-support/2008- 
>>>>>> February/001716.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://frombob.to/XO/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know where there is another copy? WaybackMachine  
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> it!
>>>>>>
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