<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Valerie,<div><br></div><div>I hope I did not sound too testy but there have been a lot of deliberate misinformation posted on various fora (or is it fori). </div><div> If you look at the top of <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Getting_Started">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Getting_Started</a> you will see the sentence "There is also a '<b>community-maintained User Guide'</b> on the wiki" . Click on '<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; ">community-maintained User Guide<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">' and this will take you a decent guide which includes links on using the activities etc. on which you can drill down for enhanced information. I actually added the bold to <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; ">community-maintained User Guide </span>to make it more obvious that the link was there. Got to go to work so will not respond until tonight.</span></span></div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div><br></div><div>RH</div><div><br></div><div>On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote:</div><div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Please don't misunderstand. I'm trying to help...</div><div><br></div><div>Most of the XOs for sale on eBay are folks who contributed to the G1G1</div><div>program, got theirs and had no idea what to do next. Too bad, as they</div><div>feel frustrated and are not as supported of the OLPC project as they</div><div>were when they paid their $400.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW I bought a "cast off" on eBay. I knew a lot about the project, the</div><div>computer, the software and the online resources including the wiki, so</div><div>I'm ok but clearly others are struggling.</div><div><br></div><div>Good suggestion - I'll do a table of contents / new G1G1 user guide,</div><div>for folks who are looking for some "now what?" and "so what?"</div><div>answers. I'll add it to the wiki. Comments, content and other</div><div>suggestions are greatly appreciated.</div><div><br></div><div>..vt</div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Robert Howard <<a href="mailto:rihoward@rawbw.com">rihoward@rawbw.com</a>> wrote:</div> <blockquote type="cite"><div>Valerie,</div><div><br></div><div>Those sites are fine. They give you everything you need to get going or are</div><div>you one of those people that needs to be spoon fed ? The XO is supposed to</div><div>be about exploring and leaning, not rote training. There is already many</div><div>pages of useful information at the official wiki. If you want to do</div><div>something useful you could start a table of contents that link to the</div><div>various sections of the wiki.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://frombob.to/XO/">http://frombob.to/XO/</a> had nothing original in it except for the bad</div><div>information and was a collection of reposts from else where that had not</div><div>been peered review. That is the problem with work that is not peer reviewed.</div><div> A couple of people tried to get in touch with the <a href="http://frombob.to/XO/">http://frombob.to/XO/</a> web</div><div>site owner when it was up to get it fixed but there was no contact</div><div>information available. Your insistence on wanting to post bad information</div><div> from <a href="http://frombob.to/XO/">http://frombob.to/XO/</a> to the wiki suggests either hubris on your part</div><div>or even worse. I suspect worse as why else would you want to post</div><div>information which result in a crippled XO ?</div><div><br></div><div>/rh</div><div><br></div><div>On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote:</div><div><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div>I checked the sites you suggest but they didn't get someone going -</div><div>too basic or way too much detail for the Givers of the G1G1 program.</div><div>It is about first impressions.</div><div><br></div><div>What To Do When You Get Your XO covered the topic well, even if there</div><div>were problems with the actual content - which is why it should be</div><div>public on the wiki.</div><div><br></div><div>..vt</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------</div><div>From: <a href="mailto:rihoward1@gmail.com">rihoward1@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:rihoward1@gmail.com">rihoward1@gmail.com</a>></div><div>Date: Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM</div><div>Subject: Re: [OLPC-SF] What To Do When You Get Your XO</div><div>To: Valerie Taylor <<a href="mailto:vtaylor@gmail.com">vtaylor@gmail.com</a>></div><div>Cc: "<a href="mailto:rihoward1@gmail.com">rihoward1@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:rihoward1@gmail.com">rihoward1@gmail.com</a>></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I am not even going to go into the specific problems with that website</div><div>other than to say that some of the advice there was so bad it could</div><div>lead you to having permanent problems with the laptop. It was so bad I</div><div>found it offensive.</div><div><br></div><div>The leaflet the comes with XO has enough information to get you</div><div>started. including a URL for more information</div><div><a href="http://laptop.org/en/laptop/start">http://laptop.org/en/laptop/start</a></div><div>Also you can find information at</div><div><a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Getting_Started">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Getting_Started</a> . In a school deployment</div><div>there would be some support at the early stages. The idea is for the</div><div>community to take part and share.</div><div><br></div><div>/rh</div><div><br></div><div>On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Valerie Taylor wrote:</div><div><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div>You say <a href="http://frombob.to/XO/">http://frombob.to/XO/</a> web page has disappeared as it had</div> <blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div><div>some dreadful advice</div> </blockquote><div><br></div><div>I can' t find it and don't remember the specifics. What was so bad?</div><div>What do you suggest that would be more appropriate?</div><div><br></div><div>It is pretty frustrating to get that little green machine out of the</div><div>shipping box and then have no idea what to do next.</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps the specific suggestions had problems, but there should be</div><div>something that is the Readme.. It needs to be easily accessible and</div><div>linked from the "obvious" locations that someone will check first.</div><div><br></div><div>I didn't ever find anything else that addressed these needs.</div><div><br></div><div>..vt</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:49 PM, <a href="mailto:rihoward1@gmail.com">rihoward1@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:rihoward1@gmail.com">rihoward1@gmail.com</a>></div><div>wrote:</div> <blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div><div>I am glad that the <a href="http://frombob.to/XO/">http://frombob.to/XO/</a> web page has disappeared as it</div><div>had</div><div>some dreadful advice and I mean absolutely dreadful advice.</div><div><br></div><div>Robert H.</div><div><br></div><div>On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote:</div><div><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div>There was a great resource page - What To Do When You Get Your XO</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/community-support/2008-February/001716.html">http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/community-support/2008-February/001716.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://frombob.to/XO/">http://frombob.to/XO/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone know where there is another copy? WaybackMachine doesn't</div><div>have</div><div>it!</div><div><br></div> </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>OLPC-SF mailing list</div><div><a href="mailto:OLPC-SF@lists.laptop.org">OLPC-SF@lists.laptop.org</a></div><div><a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf</a></div> </blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div> </blockquote></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>