[OLPC-Philippines] OLPC-Philippines Digest: Vision vs. Reality
Cherry Withers
cherry.withers at gmail.com
Mon Jun 15 05:00:46 EDT 2009
Very interesting read Ray! Thanks! I agree with developing content and
offering teacher training
first. The teachers have to be on board otherwise these machines might just
get shoved
in a closet or just be viewed as a "toy".
This article along with the Nepal cautionary tale illustrates that before we
introduce the
XO and invest heavily on marketing this...that we have (as Ryan have said in
the past)
develop a good product aimed at educators first. We are challenging
traditional way of
teaching deeply rooted in social norms, politics, etc. (you are talking
about classrooms where students in some classrooms aren't even allowed to
ask questions). We need to invest heavily on teacher
training and collaboration rather than splashy marketing right off the bat.
We don't want to run into the peril of just being a
big hype! School Pilots need to give us good models to learn from.
My two cents. This was written at 2am so only a cent is left. Please bear
with my incoherency.
--Cherry
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> 3. Re: One Laptop Per Child: Vision vs. Reality (Ryan Letada)
> 4. Meeting Place for the OLPC Get Together on (Charles Chen)
> 5. Re: One Laptop Per Child: Vision vs. Reality (James Shields)
> 6. Re: One Laptop Per Child: Vision vs. Reality (Jerome Gotangco)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:54:28 +0800
> From: Jerome Gotangco <jgotangco at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Sagip testbed update
> To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
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> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Marife Mago<marife.mago at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jerome, thanks for loaning the XO, that's a great idea, so at least they
> can
> > start exploring the activity and finally come up with some small activity
> > that they can incorporate into the activities for the Sagip kids, and
> since
> > some of the volunteers are poveda teachers ...and teaching the target age
> > bracket for the XO activities I hope they can make some sample lesson
> plan
> > and it would be? nice if we have some sample lesson plan that of Poveda
> > standards and would be beneficial for those kids who can't afford a
> Poveda
> > kind of standard.? Hopefully we can get more Poveda teachers and other
> > teachers or for some that's already here in the group feel free to share
> > your inputs.
>
>
> The machine is with Deng and she's the one involved in exploring the
> development platform for Sagip-specific activities.
>
> Jerome
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:41:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Charles Chen <ideasman88 at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: [OLPC-Philippines] Please read the ACM article on the OLPC
> program
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> Hi Ray,
>
>
>
> Thank you very much for sharing the ACM article on the OLPC program.
> What has been described in the article is exactly what are the
> challenges we face in implementing the program in the Philippines.
> Nevertheless, the article also confirms the benefits started by the
> idea of Nicholas Negroponte and the superior design features of the XO.
> And while the current market situation is now present with a lot of
> other commercial alternatives to the XO, the target market of providing
> laptops to the very poorest of school children will only be reached by
> OLPC/ XO program.
>
>
> I request everybody take the time to carefully read the article Ray posted
> (see
> http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2009/6/28497-one-laptop-per-child-vision-vs-reality/fulltext
> ).
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Charles
>
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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:56:17 +0800
> From: Ryan Letada <rletada at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] One Laptop Per Child: Vision vs.
> Reality
> To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
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> Thanks Ray,
>
> This is definitely a great and phenomenal read! I suggest that everyone
> read
> this work, especially the comments/discussions resulting from it. I think
> this article raises important points and questions, that we must raise
> ourselves as we formulate our vision and move forward. How exactly will our
> vision fare against real challenges regarding logistics, politics,
> competitive PC market, and competing interests in the Philippines? It is
> assumed that the introduction of learning and technological innovation will
> benefit the children. But how do we make a connection or correlation
> between
> the diffusion of XO laptops and our desired outcomes?
>
> This article provides important lessons/perspectives that we must sincerely
> take into consideration as we lead the charge in introducing such
> innovations to the Philippines - so READ IT!! Haha.
>
> What do you guys think? what about you Ray?
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, <rayb at apc.edu.ph> wrote:
>
> > Article in Communications of the ACM:
> >
> http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2009/6/28497-one-laptop-per-child-vision-vs-reality/fulltext
> >
> > Food for thought!
> >
> > Ray
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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:02:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Charles Chen <ideasman88 at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: [OLPC-Philippines] Meeting Place for the OLPC Get Together on
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> Hello Everybody,
>
> Please be advised that the 2nd OLPC Get Together I have sponsored scheduled
> on Sunday, 28 June 2009
> at 4pm to 5pm will be United Kingdom Conference Room, 7/F
> Ascott Makati , Ayala
> Center,
> Makati City.
>
>
> The room is WiFi enabled so anyone coming with a laptop can access the web
> for this purpose. I will check prior to the meeting whether the XO will work
> here. The first time we tried doing this at Starbucks Greenbelt we were
> unable to access the web.
>
> The place has been made available courtesy of the Australian and New
> Zealand Chamber of Commerce (ANZCHAM).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Charles
>
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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:53:43 +0800
> From: "James Shields" <james at marasbaras.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] One Laptop Per Child: Vision vs.
> Reality
> To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
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> The author has done a great job of pointing out the problems with OLPC and
> educational PCs in general.
>
> I think the OLPC project suffered greatly from bad timing. When the
> project
> started, getting a PC for every kind of a holy grail for schools. Many
> thought that just having the PCs available would make life better for the
> kinds. As the OLPC project progressed, so did attitudes and experience.
> Now, at this point, everyone understands that PCs are just tools and that
> one must have content to help the kids.
>
> What's the answer? Content for the OLPC.
>
> Given that it sounds like Negroponte is going to have an XO-2 for us all,
> I'm not sure what to suggest in the short term. Does anyone have specs?
>
> James Shields
>
>
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> [mailto:olpc-philippines-bounces at lists.laptop.org]On Behalf Of
> rayb at apc.edu.ph
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:01 PM
> To: olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org
> Subject: [OLPC-Philippines] One Laptop Per Child: Vision vs. Reality
>
>
> Article in Communications of the
> ACM:
> http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2009/6/28497-one-laptop-per-child-vision-v
> s-reality/fulltext<http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2009/6/28497-one-laptop-per-child-vision-v%0As-reality/fulltext>
>
> Food for thought!
>
> Ray
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:01:05 +0800
> From: Jerome Gotangco <jgotangco at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] One Laptop Per Child: Vision vs.
> Reality
> To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
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> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:53 PM, James Shields<james at marasbaras.com>
> wrote:
> > Given that it sounds like Negroponte is going to have an XO-2 for us all,
> > I'm not sure what to suggest in the short term. ?Does anyone have specs?
>
> First, we'll have a refresh of the original XO with a speed bump
> (CPU/Memory) as well as a storage bump (Flash storage) what will make
> things more efficient in the current design before the XO-2. It will
> also run Fedora 11 booting to Sugar with an option to boot to full
> Gnome desktop which makes the machine more usable for real world use
> (in case the kid using Sugar eventually outgrows the environment).
>
> jerome
>
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