[OLPC-Philippines] Back-up using Sugar on a USB.
Charles Chen
ideasman88 at yahoo.com.au
Sun Jun 14 15:01:19 EDT 2009
Hi Caroline,
Please inform us once you have completed testing on the process of backing-up files using Sugar on a USB.
Mel advised us this works and the wiki (see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_Backup_and_restore_to_school_server) does confirm this. However, we need to know whether this will work without the server.
Thanks.
Charles
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--- On Sun, 14/6/09, olpc-philippines-request at lists.laptop.org <olpc-philippines-request at lists.laptop.org> wrote:
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1. Re: Back-up process requirement (Caroline Meeks)
2. Re: Academia: Curriculum building (Harv Viray)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:12:19 -0400
From: Caroline Meeks <solutiongrove at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Back-up process requirement
To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
<olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org>, Hamilton Chua
<ham at solutiongrove.com>
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Hamilton has done the coding to get the XS to back up Sugar on a Stick. We
are currently testing it.
Caroline
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Mel Chua <mel at melchua.com> wrote:
> RAID-like option: takes a lot of space. If each student's journal can be
> up to half a gig (afaik that's back-of-the-envelope how much it gets on
> the XO), a classroom of 40 kids = 20GB thumbdrive and 0 data privacy.
>
> Automatic server backup is a feature that's been available for several
> months.
> (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_Backup_and_restore_to_school_server)
> I've tested this myself; it works, at least on XOs. I see no reason why
> it would not work for SoaS, but have not tried - Caroline may know
> better what the status of SoaS with respect to schoolservers is. It's
> clunky, and the interface is ugly, but it works. You *do* need engineers
> who know what they're doing to make sure it's implemented properly,
> though - last time I checked, ease-of-setup hadn't been tackled yet.
>
> --Mel
>
> James Shields wrote:
> > Have you considered a RAID-like option ... store the classroom data on
> > all machines in the classroom? Full mirror on every machine.
> >
> > James Shields
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* Charles Chen [mailto:ideasman88 at yahoo.com.au]
> > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2009 12:45 PM
> > *To:* OLPC Mailing List
> > *Cc:* James Shields
> > *Subject:* Back-up process requirement
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Thank you for raising the issue. Yes, the back-up is required to
> > maintain a record of the kid's work as he progresses on doing the
> > course supplement as well as really having a back-up record on the
> > current activity in case the USB being used is not available for any
> > reason (lost, stolen or corrupted).
> >
> > However, please bear in mind we are discussing this on the
> > hypothetical basis. Until we can actually run a pilot which will
> > simulate the same classroom conditions of doing this, we will never
> > know for sure how realiable this will be or if it will work at all.
> > Hence, the need for the pilot.
> >
> > I will keep you in loop when we are about to run the first pilot to
> > avail of your cooking ops, I mean your software developer skills.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:22:02 +0800
> > From: "James Shields" <james at marasbaras.com
> > </mc/compose?to=james at marasbaras.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC deployment model will be
> > interactive
> > To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
> > <olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org
> > </mc/compose?to=olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org>>
> > Message-ID: <MPEIKKIHAEKFDBMDPGJBMEGOEDAC.james at marasbaras.com
> > </mc/compose?to=
> MPEIKKIHAEKFDBMDPGJBMEGOEDAC.james at marasbaras.com>>
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> >
> > For OLPC XO, I agree with you entirely. USB drives are the only
> > way to go
> > for delivery. Interactive is the ideal solution.
> >
> > Since I haven't been in on the conversations about how you plan
> > to deliver,
> > what will the back up files be used for? Keeping the results of
> > student
> > homework? Keeping the content around so that it can be used for
> > the next
> > class?
> >
> > I was merely commenting on the possibility of a lower tech
> > solution for
> > schools that cannot get XOs. If this is outside the scope fo the
> > discussion, sorry for bringing it up.
> > James Shields
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: olpc-philippines-bounces at lists.laptop.org
> > </mc/compose?to=olpc-philippines-bounces at lists.laptop.org>
> > [mailto:olpc-philippines-bounces at lists.laptop.org
> > </mc/compose?to=olpc-philippines-bounces at lists.laptop.org>]On
> > Behalf Of Charles Chen
> > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:57 AM
> > To: OLPC Mailing List
> > Subject: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC deployment model will be
> > interactive
> >
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > The OLPC XO deployment model I am considering for local
> > school
> > pilots will all be interactive using USBs to contain the content
> > to be used
> > and Sugar as the application to support this. I am not
> > considering providing
> > a static option as this will require a printer and all the
> related
> > consumables involved to support this. There is also the related
> > support and
> > maintenance responsibilities required from the school if this is
> > provided.
> >
> > I have yet to identify what option will be used to
> > back-up the files
> > used other than using a server for this purpose. I would
> > appreciate your
> > inputs on the matter.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Caroline Meeks
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:37:13 +0800
From: Harv Viray <bcviray at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Academia: Curriculum building
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Hi Cherry, Ryan, Sandeep, Jerome, everone,
Sorry for the hiatus. I have a sudden family problem that I didn't have
time to prepare for the meeting, and I won't be able to attend as well. I
attached a science high school curriculum that you might want to use for the
meeting. I will catch up next time.
Regards,
Harv
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Cherry Withers <cherry.withers at gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Rick and John and other interested parties!
>
> How are you? Hope all is well.
>
> Hope you can attend our team meeting this Sunday.
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Philippines/Meetings
>
> We have Rick, Marife, John, Janet, Mel and Harv so far
> in terms of folks who have a background/degree in education.
> If you're one them...please chime in!!!
>
> On a short term deliverable, Marife and I are hoping to get some initial
> materials from this group to post on the web as a sample for educators.
> We're hoping to get at least an initial Philippine public school curriculum
> for
> 1st grade-5th grade so we can have a framework to integrate Sugar and build
> from.
>
> Long term goal...we hope to collaborate with educators on a Teacher's
> guide/sample lesson plan to integrating Sugar in the grades mentioned
> above. The aim would
> be to put in a level of constructivism into teaching, unique to the the
> Philippine Public School
> system.
>
> Collaborative tool suggestion: a great medium is Connexions :
> http://cnx.org/
> which is currently in use by Teachers without Borders and other educators
> and non-profit
> organizations.
>
> Cheers,
> Cherry
>
>
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