[OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新-----10月8日

lite li litekok在gmail.com
星期二 十月 16 11:15:48 EDT 2012


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM, <tkkang在nurturingasia.com> wrote:

> Thanks lite li for his personal time in the translation .... (I am sure it
> is better then AI translation!). The questions asked by teachers are very
> relevant and if we are doing anything it is important to try to make sure
> the students can bring it home!!
>
> BTW the below video capture the spirit of OLPC by its founder and the XO
> prototype in Nov 16, 2005. Hope the China volunteers will plan for some
> learning celebration and I do hope the XO can reach you all ASAP to some
> education work, development, etc.
>
> http://archive.org/details/igovernance_rawfootage_OLPC_PR_1


This is another link:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDYyODE4ODQ4.html


> Cheers and keep the conversation open and lively with a way forward for
> future China deployments.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: lite li [mailto:litekok在gmail.com]
> >Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 08:57 PM
> >To: tkkang在nurturingasia.com, 'Wyatt Wang'
> >Cc: 'Team OLPC', technical在olpc.asia, 'Athurg Gooth',
> olpc-asia在lists.laptop.org
> >Subject: Re: [OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新----10月8日
> >
> >Hi, T.K.  Thanks for your comments.
> >
> >王老师,这里是T.K.对你的部分疑问的回答,谢谢。
> >
> >On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:57 AM, <tkkang在nurturingasia.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the follow up to understand what the teachers are worried
> about:
> >>
> >> >    1. How to maintain these XOs?
> >>
> >> A video of children/adults taking the XO apart will bring the message
> >> across that they can be trained to do this with support from the
> deployment
> >> team. A USB stick can be used to reflash the XO.
> >>
> >
> >  有个大人和儿童一起分解XO的视频也许对我们如何维护XO有帮助,志愿者可以在发布团队帮助下接受培训。一个USB记忆棒可以用来更新XO的系统。
> >
> >>
> >> >    2. Let every kids get the laptop or keep it in the classroom?
> >>
> >> The children MUST have a way to bring it home. If there is not enough XO
> >> maybe tell a story that in Bhutan the teacher make a timetable and let
> >> students take turn to use it at home - hence children have to learn to
> take
> >> care of it until the next child use it.
> >>
> >>
> >  孩子们必须有办法把它带回家。如果没有足够的XO,在不丹是这样做的,学生按照老师的时间表轮流在家里使用它 -
> >因此,学生必须学习照顾它,直到交给下一个孩子。
> >
> >
> >> >    3. How to prevent the XO be stolen?
> >>
> >> If the child/teacher take responsibility then it will be less likely.
> The
> >> worse is all the XO get stolen if they are locked in the school over the
> >> weekend! So to prevent is to let the child have it and bring it back
> >> regularly for use together.
> >>
> >
> >
>
> >如果让儿童/教师来负责,这可能行不通。如果XO周末被锁定在学校里,最糟糕的情况会是所有的XO被偷!因此,让孩子拥有它,每天可以把它带回家使用是更好的选择。
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: lite li [mailto:litekok在gmail.com]
> >> >Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 08:54 PM
> >> >To: anthony.wong在laptop.org
> >> >Cc: tkkang在nurturingasia.com, 'Team OLPC', technical在olpc.asia,
> 'Athurg
> >> Gooth',
> >> >olpc-asia在lists.laptop.org
> >> >Subject: Re: [OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新---10月8日
> >> >
> >> >Hi, All,
> >> >
> >> >  I contacted with some teachers, and get some feedback on this
> proposal.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  Another, as a rural teacher, he has some concerns:
> >> >
> >> >  1、拿到这些电脑,如何去教学生,教什么?
> >> >  1. How to teach student, and what will be teach after XO arrived.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >2、学习时间问题。我们这边,一到八年级都是不住校的,这电脑可能更适合小学生一些吧,由于不住校,学生放学就得回家,如果留校培训电脑的话,延误放学时间,学校现在是怕担责任的,我想如果我个人去做,学校这里估计过不了。
> >> >  2. When these kids use XO? everyday the class is full, and there is
> no
> >> >extra time to use XO. If private action, I think it will break the
> >> school's
> >> >rule.
> >> >
> >> >  3.如果我通过学校,采取一些行政上的手段,但又有现成的机房空置的先例,我觉得又受以成事。
> >> >  3. Follow school's rule, these old computers are still not used,
>  maybe
> >> >XO will follow them, be locked in the classroom.
> >> >
> >> >  Please give your comments, Thanks,
> >> >Lite
> >> >
> >> >;----------------------------
> >> >谢谢二位,才回到家不久,才看到邮件哈。
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >说实在的,我对OLPC还是一个很初步的认识,甚至谈不上什么认识,因为我现在只是在网络上搜索了一些图片,看到大致是一个什么样子,从来没有接触到这类电脑,不清楚它是什么样的,能做什么,以及如何做到的问题。
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >昨天晚上我和长城通话的时候,谈到过我们学校现在的大致情况,学校有一批电脑,是上级上管部门以采购的方式,然后配送到学校的,大概06年的样子,我们学校拿到了“农远”项目,然后组建起了机房(30能学校生,一台教师机,一台服务器,无盘工作站)、一个装有投影仪的教室,还有一个是使用卫星接收数据的教室,这一套设备到底值多少钱,我也说不清,但大致使用了一年之后,就基本停下来了,到现在,这些电脑都开不了机了。
> >> >
> >> >这学校又来了30台电脑,商用机那种,有几种被学校各办公室用了,还余下20多台,装到学校机房了,但现在课还没能开起来了。
> >> >
> >> >说这些情况,我只是想表达学校计算机教育与应用很不受重视。
> >> >
> >> >我平时业余时间爱自己折腾一下电脑,当是丰富下自己的业余生活了。如何教信息技术,培养学生这方面的能力,我暂时也停留在只有一些简单的原始的想而已。
> >> >
> >> >说实在的,我也希望能帮我们学校的学生们争取到这个项目,但我又有些担心:
> >> >
> >> >1、拿到这些电脑,如何去教学生,教什么?
> >>
> >>
> >2、学习时间问题。我们这边,一到八年级都是不住校的,这电脑可能更适合小学生一些吧,由于不住校,学生放学就得回家,如果留校培训电脑的话,延误放学时间,学校现在是怕担责任的,我想如果我个人去做,学校这里估计过不了。
> >> >3.如果我通过学校,采取一些行政上的手段,但又有现成的机房空置的先例,我觉得又受以成事。
> >> >
> >> >基于这些,我现在挺矛盾的。想听听二位的看法。我想争取,但又担心争取之后却浪费了资源。
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Anthony Wong <
> anthony.skwong在gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Looping other members in. Please give your comments.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >> Anthony
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Anthony Wong <
> >> anthony.skwong在gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi TK, Team,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sorry for keeping everyone waiting on this deployment. I have not
> been
> >> >>> getting sufficient information from OLPC on the arrival of the 150
> XO
> >> 1.75.
> >> >>> Now I think they will not come before the winter. So my proposal
> right
> >> now
> >> >>> to Lite is whether we could start with a very small quantity of
> XO1.0,
> >> like
> >> >>> 30 or so, which we have in hand and just rely on Lite and any other
> >> local
> >> >>> volunteers that he could get. I can arrange to ship this small
> >> quantity to
> >> >>> him so he could do this small experiment ASAP. If response is good
> then
> >> >>> maybe we could consider further support in future.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please kick around with this idea and let me know your thoughts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best,
> >> >>> Anthony
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 2012年10月11日, at 9:01, tkkang在nurturingasia.com wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > A e-mail I wrote to the team here to get feedback as to what is
> >> >>> feasible next. Love to hear from you all and see if something can be
> >> forth
> >> >>> coming in November?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Let celebrate XoD on Nov 16 .....
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > ----
> >> >>> > Things are still happening at the China front and with some
> support
> >> >>> from us I think the 100% is within reach after a year of persistent
> >> work.
> >> >>> Also there are about 100 broken XO 1.0 (mainly screen) in the
> Sichuan
> >> >>> deployment. Can we followup with this by getting it update and
> >> redeployed
> >> >>> elsewhere  (e.g. Dapo ?) ? It is cheaper for upgrade as in this
> >> >>> announcement and it would be fun scrubbing (washing) and striping
> the
> >> XO
> >> >>> apast for upgrade.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > http://blog.laptop.org/tag/upgrade-kit/#.UHYRnvUrJCo
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > The Chinese volunteers are doing a great job of the translation.
> >> Maybe
> >> >>> when we have the sponsorship to do the next deployment it would be
> 100%
> >> >>> translated with XO 1.75!  Patience, Persistence and Purpose keep us
> >> working
> >> >>> like an OX (XoD)
> >> >>> > 1. 中文翻译
> >> >>> > http://translate.sugarlabs.org/zh_cn
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > 进度86%
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> >> From: lite li [mailto:litekok在gmail.com]
> >> >>> >> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 10:51 PM
> >> >>> >> To: tkkang在nurturingasia.com
> >> >>> >> Cc: olpc-asia在lists.laptop.org
> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新--10月8日
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Thanks, TK,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM, <tkkang在nurturingasia.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>> Add oil .... hope we can celebrate with you all the full
> >> localization
> >> >>> on
> >> >>> >>> Nov 16 XoD!
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Cheers
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> >>>> From: lite li [mailto:litekok在gmail.com]
> >> >>> >>>> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 01:20 PM
> >> >>> >>>> To: olpc-asia在lists.laptop.org
> >> >>> >>>> Subject: [OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新-10月8日
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> OLPC的中国大陆的更新-10月8日
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> 1. 中文翻译
> >> >>> >>>> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/zh_cn
> >> >>> >>>> 进度87%
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> 3. 优酷上面OLPC专辑
> >> >>> >>>> http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzU3Njk0NTMy.html?f=17098152
> >> >>> >>>> 共245个视频
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > _______________________________________________
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> >> >>>
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