[OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新-----10月8日

tkkang在nurturingasia.com tkkang在nurturingasia.com
星期二 十月 16 01:08:08 EDT 2012 

Thanks lite li for his personal time in the translation .... (I am sure it is better then AI translation!). The questions asked by teachers are very relevant and if we are doing anything it is important to try to make sure the students can bring it home!!

BＴＷ the below video capture the spirit of OLPC by its founder and the XO prototype in Nov 16, 2005. Hope the China volunteers will plan for some learning celebration and I do hope the XO can reach you all ASAP to some education work, development, etc. 

http://archive.org/details/igovernance_rawfootage_OLPC_PR_1

Cheers and keep the conversation open and lively with a way forward for future China deployments.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: lite li [mailto:litekok at gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 08:57 PM
>To: tkkang at nurturingasia.com, 'Wyatt Wang'
>Cc: 'Team OLPC', technical at olpc.asia, 'Athurg Gooth', olpc-asia at lists.laptop.org
>Subject: Re: [OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新----10月8日
>
>Hi, T.K.  Thanks for your comments.
>
>王老师，这里是T.K.对你的部分疑问的回答，谢谢。
>
>On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:57 AM, <tkkang at nurturingasia.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the follow up to understand what the teachers are worried about:
>>
>> >    1. How to maintain these XOs?
>>
>> A video of children/adults taking the XO apart will bring the message
>> across that they can be trained to do this with support from the deployment
>> team. A USB stick can be used to reflash the XO.
>>
>
>  有个大人和儿童一起分解XO的视频也许对我们如何维护XO有帮助，志愿者可以在发布团队帮助下接受培训。一个USB记忆棒可以用来更新XO的系统。
>
>>
>> >    2. Let every kids get the laptop or keep it in the classroom?
>>
>> The children MUST have a way to bring it home. If there is not enough XO
>> maybe tell a story that in Bhutan the teacher make a timetable and let
>> students take turn to use it at home - hence children have to learn to take
>> care of it until the next child use it.
>>
>>
>  孩子们必须有办法把它带回家。如果没有足够的XO，在不丹是这样做的，学生按照老师的时间表轮流在家里使用它 -
>因此，学生必须学习照顾它，直到交给下一个孩子。
>
>
>> >    3. How to prevent the XO be stolen?
>>
>> If the child/teacher take responsibility then it will be less likely. The
>> worse is all the XO get stolen if they are locked in the school over the
>> weekend! So to prevent is to let the child have it and bring it back
>> regularly for use together.
>>
>
>
>如果让儿童/教师来负责，这可能行不通。如果XO周末被锁定在学校里，最糟糕的情况会是所有的XO被偷！因此，让孩子拥有它，每天可以把它带回家使用是更好的选择。
>
>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: lite li [mailto:litekok at gmail.com]
>> >Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 08:54 PM
>> >To: anthony.wong at laptop.org
>> >Cc: tkkang at nurturingasia.com, 'Team OLPC', technical at olpc.asia, 'Athurg
>> Gooth',
>> >olpc-asia at lists.laptop.org
>> >Subject: Re: [OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新---10月8日
>> >
>> >Hi, All,
>> >
>> >  I contacted with some teachers, and get some feedback on this proposal.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Another, as a rural teacher, he has some concerns:
>> >
>> >  1、拿到这些电脑，如何去教学生，教什么？
>> >  1. How to teach student, and what will be teach after XO arrived.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> >2、学习时间问题。我们这边，一到八年级都是不住校的，这电脑可能更适合小学生一些吧，由于不住校，学生放学就得回家，如果留校培训电脑的话，延误放学时间，学校现在是怕担责任的，我想如果我个人去做，学校这里估计过不了。
>> >  2. When these kids use XO? everyday the class is full, and there is no
>> >extra time to use XO. If private action, I think it will break the
>> school's
>> >rule.
>> >
>> >  3.如果我通过学校，采取一些行政上的手段，但又有现成的机房空置的先例，我觉得又受以成事。
>> >  3. Follow school's rule, these old computers are still not used,  maybe
>> >XO will follow them, be locked in the classroom.
>> >
>> >  Please give your comments, Thanks,
>> >Lite
>> >
>> >;----------------------------
>> >谢谢二位，才回到家不久，才看到邮件哈。
>> >
>>
>> >说实在的，我对OLPC还是一个很初步的认识，甚至谈不上什么认识，因为我现在只是在网络上搜索了一些图片，看到大致是一个什么样子，从来没有接触到这类电脑，不清楚它是什么样的，能做什么，以及如何做到的问题。
>> >
>>
>> >昨天晚上我和长城通话的时候，谈到过我们学校现在的大致情况，学校有一批电脑，是上级上管部门以采购的方式，然后配送到学校的，大概06年的样子，我们学校拿到了“农远”项目，然后组建起了机房（30能学校生，一台教师机，一台服务器，无盘工作站）、一个装有投影仪的教室，还有一个是使用卫星接收数据的教室，这一套设备到底值多少钱，我也说不清，但大致使用了一年之后，就基本停下来了，到现在，这些电脑都开不了机了。
>> >
>> >这学校又来了30台电脑，商用机那种，有几种被学校各办公室用了，还余下20多台，装到学校机房了，但现在课还没能开起来了。
>> >
>> >说这些情况，我只是想表达学校计算机教育与应用很不受重视。
>> >
>> >我平时业余时间爱自己折腾一下电脑，当是丰富下自己的业余生活了。如何教信息技术，培养学生这方面的能力，我暂时也停留在只有一些简单的原始的想而已。
>> >
>> >说实在的，我也希望能帮我们学校的学生们争取到这个项目，但我又有些担心：
>> >
>> >1、拿到这些电脑，如何去教学生，教什么？
>>
>> >2、学习时间问题。我们这边，一到八年级都是不住校的，这电脑可能更适合小学生一些吧，由于不住校，学生放学就得回家，如果留校培训电脑的话，延误放学时间，学校现在是怕担责任的，我想如果我个人去做，学校这里估计过不了。
>> >3.如果我通过学校，采取一些行政上的手段，但又有现成的机房空置的先例，我觉得又受以成事。
>> >
>> >基于这些，我现在挺矛盾的。想听听二位的看法。我想争取，但又担心争取之后却浪费了资源。
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Anthony Wong <anthony.skwong at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Looping other members in. Please give your comments.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Anthony
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Anthony Wong <
>> anthony.skwong at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi TK, Team,
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry for keeping everyone waiting on this deployment. I have not been
>> >>> getting sufficient information from OLPC on the arrival of the 150 XO
>> 1.75.
>> >>> Now I think they will not come before the winter. So my proposal right
>> now
>> >>> to Lite is whether we could start with a very small quantity of XO1.0,
>> like
>> >>> 30 or so, which we have in hand and just rely on Lite and any other
>> local
>> >>> volunteers that he could get. I can arrange to ship this small
>> quantity to
>> >>> him so he could do this small experiment ASAP. If response is good then
>> >>> maybe we could consider further support in future.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please kick around with this idea and let me know your thoughts.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> Anthony
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2012年10月11日, at 9:01, tkkang at nurturingasia.com wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > A e-mail I wrote to the team here to get feedback as to what is
>> >>> feasible next. Love to hear from you all and see if something can be
>> forth
>> >>> coming in November?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Let celebrate XoD on Nov 16 .....
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ----
>> >>> > Things are still happening at the China front and with some support
>> >>> from us I think the 100% is within reach after a year of persistent
>> work.
>> >>> Also there are about 100 broken XO 1.0 (mainly screen) in the Sichuan
>> >>> deployment. Can we followup with this by getting it update and
>> redeployed
>> >>> elsewhere  (e.g. Dapo ?) ? It is cheaper for upgrade as in this
>> >>> announcement and it would be fun scrubbing (washing) and striping the
>> XO
>> >>> apast for upgrade.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > http://blog.laptop.org/tag/upgrade-kit/#.UHYRnvUrJCo
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The Chinese volunteers are doing a great job of the translation.
>> Maybe
>> >>> when we have the sponsorship to do the next deployment it would be 100%
>> >>> translated with XO 1.75!  Patience, Persistence and Purpose keep us
>> working
>> >>> like an OX (XoD)
>> >>> > 1. 中文翻译
>> >>> > http://translate.sugarlabs.org/zh_cn
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 进度86%
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> From: lite li [mailto:litekok at gmail.com]
>> >>> >> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 10:51 PM
>> >>> >> To: tkkang at nurturingasia.com
>> >>> >> Cc: olpc-asia at lists.laptop.org
>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新--10月8日
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thanks, TK,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM, <tkkang at nurturingasia.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> Add oil .... hope we can celebrate with you all the full
>> localization
>> >>> on
>> >>> >>> Nov 16 XoD!
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >>>> From: lite li [mailto:litekok at gmail.com]
>> >>> >>>> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 01:20 PM
>> >>> >>>> To: olpc-asia at lists.laptop.org
>> >>> >>>> Subject: [OLPC-Asia] OLPC的中国大陆的更新-10月8日
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> OLPC的中国大陆的更新-10月8日
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> 1. 中文翻译
>> >>> >>>> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/zh_cn
>> >>> >>>> 进度87%
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> 3. 优酷上面OLPC专辑
>> >>> >>>> http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzU3Njk0NTMy.html?f=17098152
>> >>> >>>> 共245个视频
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