[Localization] various glitches

[Alexander Dupuy]

Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero escribió:
>> viewslides.po file has an 'X' next to it (and 0% completion) due to the
>> following error (from X mouseover):
>>
>> viewslides.po: 70: 10: invalid multibyte sequence
>>     
>
> This seems to be ok now. at least it works for me)
>   

Yes, Sayamindu fixed this (the file encoding was specified as ASCII when 
it was UTF-8).

>> We probably want a native speaker
>> to review all of this, but there is a lot of new technical stuff in
>> there that will be problematic for most translators without programming
>> experience.
>>     
>
> I'll take a look.
>   

Thanks for reviewing the suggestions that Chris and I had made - I see 
you fixed some typos as well.  I don't know if you get the JavaScript 
check and X to accept/reject suggestions, but for whatever reason the 
suggestions that we made were still left in Pootle - I don't think that 
was intentional, so I removed all of the ones where you took one of our 
suggestions (possibly correcting typos).

Something that we may want to consider for Turtle Art specifically, as 
well as possibly more generally for Sugar are some issues for 
consistency in our (approach to) terminology:

set (verb) - establecer or fijar ?
push (verb, to stack) - empujar or apilar ?
pop (verb, to stack) - sacar or desapilar ?
loop (verb) - bucle or repetir ?
jog (verb) - desplazar ?

For option setting, I had suggested "fijar" (I wasn't even aware of 
establecer, which is used in a few other places in Sugar, and seems to 
be more common in other open source translations (per open-tran.eu).  
Given the orientation of Sugar toward children, I think fijar may still 
be better, as it is simpler, but it may not be quite as universal across 
dialects or the Atlantic Ocean.

The stack operations push and pop are ones where I used apilar and 
desapilar [from http://es.wikipedia.org/Pila%20(informatica)] but I 
don't know whether empujar / sacar (which are used for push / pop by 
themselves) would be better - ultimately the question is whether we want 
to use (non-standard) terminology that may be clearer to children, to 
make it easier to learn programming, or to use more standard 
terminology, so that they learn more.

Similar arguments can be made for the "loop" verb.  As a computer 
scientist, using "loop" as a verb seems perfectly natural after so many 
years of programming, but perhaps Walter should have used "repeat" 
instead?  (I don't even know whether bucle is used as a verb in Spanish, 
for programming or otherwise).

The "jog stack right" and "jog stack down" phrases are pretty opaque to 
me, even as a computer scientist - these are definitely not standard 
terminology, and I really don't know what Walter is talking about here.  
I did come up with a useful term ("desplazar") courtesy of Google 
translation tools that seemed to fit, so I added that as a suggestion.


>> While I have translation rights for Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese
>> Fructose, I only have suggestion rights for Glucose and Honey (I cannot
>> send / update translations)
>
> Thanks for your suggestions and work

You're welcome.  Going through Chris' and my suggestions in the new 
translations (to remove the now-redundant ones) I noticed that while I 
have rights to review (accept/reject) suggestions in Spanish Fructose, I 
don't have that right in Glucose or Honey.  If the administrator for the 
Spanish translation team could give me that right, I would be happy to 
go through and remove the various now-redundant suggestions present in 
those projects.

@alex

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