[OLPC India] India Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11

[Saurabh Adhikari]

Do you mean the countries you name are more developed than India? Or less developed than India? What point are you trying to make?
 
Most of your posts seem full of personal attacks and ignorance.. and seldom clarify a point.. Would you like to think a point through first and then send a message that communicates what it tries to convey?
 
Thank you

Sincerely,
S Adhikari

> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:26:32 +0530> From: mvalentin at oeuvredespains.org> To: india at lists.laptop.org> Subject: Re: [OLPC India] India Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11> > As far as I know, we are not talking about South Korea, Pakistan,> Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Ethiopia or Peru here. This is about India...> in 2008 !> As I see it, E-choupal is not a development project, it was created by> ITC Limited, "one of India's foremost private sector companies with a> market capitalisation of nearly US $ 18 billion and a turnover of over> US $ 5.1 Billion" and it is purely commercial.> > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:> > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Marc Valentin> > <mvalentin at oeuvredespains.org> wrote:> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Satish Jha OLPC <satish at laptop.org> wrote:> >>> While I do not agree with nearly any of the observations made below and am> >>> witnessing how things can be and are being changed, I would prefer some> >>> other members of this group to take it forward.> >>> >> Satish, there is no point to agree or not, you should acknowledge that> >> most of the people of this list have a better understanding of India> >> (the real one) than you have.> >> > That seems a strange claim to me. What do you know about Satish's> > experience? What is yours?> >> >> Did you ever spend some days living in a> >> village among the people ?> >> > I have. Peace Corps, South Korea, 1967, when they were economically> > far behind where India is now, and living under a military> > dictatorship somewhat like Pakistan's today, with occasional> > cross-border attacks from the North. A good friend of my best friend> > there died from a grenade tossed on a bus by a failed North Korean> > assassination team.> >> >> Do you know what is their budget to live> >> (survive) for one month ? Do you know how they live ?> >> > Yes. Subsistence farmers and day laborers made less than a dollar a> > day at that time. Peace Corps Volunteers lived fairly comfortably on> > about $6/day.> >> >>The XO should be> >> seen as what it is : a nice tool. It is not a revolution.> >> > This turns out not to be the case. Unless you think that> >> > o Grameen Phone was not revolutionary in expanding telephone service> > from cities only to nearly all of Bangladesh, and attracting several> > billion dollars in hard investment money.> >> > o Or that Overstock.com was not certified by the government of> > Afghanistan as the largest employer in the country, even with no> > physical presence, because tens of thousands of people could sell art> > and craft items online, receiving more than 60% of the final selling> > price. Sellers did not need to own a computer, but just had to know> > somebody who knew somebody who had a computer.> >> > o Or that the ITC e-choupal project has significantly increased farm> > income in tens of thousands of villages of India by placing one> > computer per village to give them access to the Chicago Board of Trade> > soybean prices and other market information, and buy based on world> > prices.> >> > o Or that the XO is not revolutionizing education in Peru and> > Ethiopia, as stated in published articles and formal studies. See, for> > example, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Academic_papers and> > http://radian.org/notebook/astounded-in-arahuay.> >> > And so on through a multitude of other examples.> > --> > Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name> > And Children are my nation.> > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination.> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai> >> _______________________________________________> India mailing list> India at lists.laptop.org> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india
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