[OLPC India] India Digest, Vol 17, Issue 11

Arjun Sarwal arjun at laptop.org
Tue Apr 29 13:38:25 EDT 2008


It'd be great to start some sort of planning on the wiki. Amit, can
you please broadly define some areas and also include some of your
notes to get us started ?
Ms Gowri thanks for your support, we look forward to working with you.

best
Arjun

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM, amit gogna <amitg at laptop.org> wrote:
> Here is the link for you to know more about deployments happening in
> Bangalore.
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC-Bangalore
>
> Amit
>  On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Usha Gowri <usha.gowri at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ok
> > What might be the time line?
> > I am in Bangalore and would like to work in North Karnataka and parts of
> Nilgris.
> > who are your contacts in Bangalore and how can we network?
> > Rgds
> > Gowri
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:02 AM, amit gogna <amitg at laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Sorry for the late reply was travelling.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > .but how can we put processes in place?
> > >
> > >
> > >  We are already trying to put a process in place ...it would allow
> anyone across the country take up the OLPC project and we would provide all
> the suppport for doing so and provide required directions
> > >
> > > > How can I contribute?
> > >
> > >
> > >  I am not sure what part of south India are you located. But surely the
> good news is we are starting a OLPC Project there in Bangalore. I'm sure you
> would have so much to contribute.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Is there anyone here in South India so we can form a group and get
> some attention?
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes last week I was in Bangalore and tried getting in touch with LUG
> there. Hopefully I intend to contact all LUGs in all the states . May be we
> can have some conference with LUG of each state.This could help to form a
> support community in all respects.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:42 PM, <india-request at lists.laptop.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Send India mailing list submissions to
> > > > >        india at lists.laptop.org
> > > > >
> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > > > >        http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india
> > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > > >        india-request at lists.laptop.org
> > > > >
> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > > > >        india-owner at lists.laptop.org
> > > > >
> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > > > than "Re: Contents of India digest..."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Today's Topics:
> > > > >
> > > > >   1. Re: Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India Conference on 18th
> > > > >      April, 2008 (Sameer Verma)
> > > > >   2. Re: Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India Conference on        18th
> > > > >      April, 2008 (Marc Valentin)
> > > > >   3. Re: Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India Conference on 18th
> > > > >      April, 2008 (Sameer Verma)
> > > > >   4. Re: Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India Conference on        18th
> > > > >      April, 2008 (Puneet Goel)
> > > > >   5. Re: Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India Conference on 18th
> > > > >      April, 2008 (Sameer Verma)
> > > > >   6. OLPC - Cowdung/Biogas power - Kyoto Protocol logic (Sven AERTS)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:11:34 -0700
> > > > > From: Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India
> Conference
> > > > >        on 18th April, 2008
> > > > > To: india at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > Message-ID: <480B9566.8010706 at sfsu.edu>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > > > >
> > > > > amit gogna wrote:
> > > > > > Following is the link giving details of OLPC India Conference :-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_India/Conference_calls#Minutes_of_Meeting
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > India mailing list
> > > > > > India at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india
> > > > > >
> > > > > A few points that I'd like to add:
> > > > >
> > > > > The conference call sound quality was a bit of a problem, although I
> > > > > don't think this was a problem with the setup. It sounded like
> someone
> > > > > on the conference call was sitting in traffic...way too much traffic
> > > > > noise. It was also suggested that we could perhaps look for a hybrid
> > > > > conference call setup which would support dial-in and VoIP calls. I
> know
> > > > > that Gizmo supports such a feature, but AFAIK the call in number is
> a
> > > > > US-based number. See
> > > > > http://gizmo5.com/pc/products/features/conference-calling/ for
> details.
> > > > >
> > > > > In terms of the upcoming installs or pilots in India, I would
> reiterate
> > > > > that interested people and parties should look to other pilots for
> > > > > "lessons learned". Nepal and Pakistan come to mind, given their
> > > > > proximity. I've seen a lot more public info on the Nepal pilot,
> though.
> > > > > http://www.olenepal.org/ There are several issues that can be
> > > > > categorized into hardware, software, localization, repairs,
> training,
> > > > > etc. Many of these will be largely the same for most deployments, so
> no
> > > > > reinvention is necessary. Some issues will of course be specific for
> > > > > deployments in different parts of India, and those will have to be
> > > > > addressed on a case by case basis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another item of concern is the level of awareness. I've talked to
> people
> > > > > at a couple of different LUGs in India about the project, and I got
> a
> > > > > sense if indifference from them. Perhaps we need a stronger push to
> > > > > connect LUGs into different OLPC projects. LUGs tend to have goals
> > > > > similar to what OLPC has. LUGs aren't really about Linux or FOSS as
> much
> > > > > as they are about education! This was my suggestion to Gaurav (from
> > > > > Punjab University) on the phone call. Gaurav's group at Punjab
> > > > > University is doing interesting things in reaching out to the
> > > > > communities. Gaurav: Can we hear from you on some of those
> activities?
> > > > > Perhaps pointers to slides, blogs, etc.?
> > > > >
> > > > > LUGs all over India can get involved and spread the word. They can
> go
> > > > > out to the local communities and improve awareness. There is also a
> > > > > perception that if you don't have an XO, you can't really do much.
> This
> > > > > is not the case if you are using a live CD though. The current batch
> of
> > > > > Live CDs (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD) provide a
> > > > > large proportion of the functionality that one would see on an XO.
> > > > > Perhaps this avenue should be explored more. After all, its really a
> > > > > Fedora-derived distro. You could very well run an entire classroom
> of
> > > > > these LiveCDs on regular desktops and still avail the features of
> Sugar!
> > > > >
> > > > > Then we have the localization bit. Sayamindu Dasgupta and others
> have
> > > > > done a great job of setting up this resource. We need to be able to
> use
> > > > > it to its fullest extent.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Pootle (https://dev.laptop.org/translate/), we have:  Afrikaans,
> > > > > Amharic, Arabic, Aymara, Basque, Bengali, Bengali (India),
> Bulgarian,
> > > > > Catalan, Chinese (China), Chinese (Hong Kong), Chinese (Taiwan),
> Czech,
> > > > > Danish, Dari, Dutch, Dzongkha, English, English (South African),
> English
> > > > > (US), Finnish, French, Friulian, Fula, Galician, Georgian, German,
> > > > > Greek, Gujarati, Hausa, Hindi, Icelandic, Igbo, Italian, Japanese,
> > > > > Khmer, Kinyarwanda, Korean, Kreyol, Macedonian, Malayalam, Maltese,
> > > > > Marathi, Mongolian, Nepali, Pashto, Persian, Polish, Portuguese,
> > > > > Portuguese (Brazil), Punjabi, Quechua, Romanian, Russian, Serbian,
> > > > > Sindhi, Sinhala, Slovenian, Sotho, Spanish, Swedish, Tamil, Telugu,
> > > > > Templates, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, Urdu, Vietnamese, Wolof,
> Yoruba,
> > > > > pseudo L10n
> > > > >
> > > > > Look at the list and see if you have a language/script that's not on
> > > > > there but you'd like to help with. For basic instructions on how to
> use
> > > > > Pootle see http://opensource.sfsu.edu/node/452 The screenshots are a
> bit
> > > > > dated, but the idea should get across. You'll notice on that same
> page
> > > > > that the slides have been translated into Bulgarian and Chinese. How
> > > > > about converting the slides into some Indian languages?
> > > > >
> > > > > In all, I am quite excited to see things moving again on this list.
> > > > > Let's hope we keep up the momentum.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > > Sameer
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> > > > > Associate Professor of Information Systems
> > > > > San Francisco State University
> > > > > San Francisco CA 94132 USA
> > > > > http://verma.sfsu.edu/
> > > > > http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 2
> > > > > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:17:10 +0200
> > > > > From: "Marc Valentin" <mvalentin at oeuvredespains.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India
> Conference
> > > > >        on      18th April, 2008
> > > > > To: "Sameer Verma" <sverma at sfsu.edu>, india at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > >        <99ae10a80804201317t4adde52enb72c3b9180e2b454 at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > > > >
> > > > > I just want to add this : XO-LiveCD is nice but for those wanting to
> > > > > participate to the creation of manuals, tutorials or software
> > > > > development, using Virtualization is the way to go : with VMWare,
> > > > > VirtualBox,... (see wiki.laptop.org)
> > > > > You can work in MSWindows or Linux or Mac having the XO open in a
> > > > > Window... very useful for taking snapshots for example.
> > > > > -marc-
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  There is also a
> > > > > >  perception that if you don't have an XO, you can't really do
> much. This
> > > > > >  is not the case if you are using a live CD though. The current
> batch of
> > > > > >  Live CDs (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD) provide
> a
> > > > > >  large proportion of the functionality that one would see on an
> XO.
> > > > > >  Perhaps this avenue should be explored more. After all, its
> really a
> > > > > >  Fedora-derived distro. You could very well run an entire
> classroom of
> > > > > >  these LiveCDs on regular desktops and still avail the features of
> Sugar!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 3
> > > > > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:47:17 -0700
> > > > > From: Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India
> Conference
> > > > >        on 18th April, 2008
> > > > > To: Marc Valentin <mvalentin at oeuvredespains.org>
> > > > > Cc: india at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > Message-ID: <480BABD5.4000501 at sfsu.edu>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > > > >
> > > > > Marc Valentin wrote:
> > > > > > I just want to add this : XO-LiveCD is nice but for those wanting
> to
> > > > > > participate to the creation of manuals, tutorials or software
> > > > > > development, using Virtualization is the way to go : with VMWare,
> > > > > > VirtualBox,... (see wiki.laptop.org)
> > > > > > You can work in MSWindows or Linux or Mac having the XO open in a
> > > > > > Window... very useful for taking snapshots for example.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I would second that. VMs are great for documentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sameer
> > > > > > -marc-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>  There is also a
> > > > > >>  perception that if you don't have an XO, you can't really do
> much. This
> > > > > >>  is not the case if you are using a live CD though. The current
> batch of
> > > > > >>  Live CDs (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD)
> provide a
> > > > > >>  large proportion of the functionality that one would see on an
> XO.
> > > > > >>  Perhaps this avenue should be explored more. After all, its
> really a
> > > > > >>  Fedora-derived distro. You could very well run an entire
> classroom of
> > > > > >>  these LiveCDs on regular desktops and still avail the features
> of Sugar!
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 4
> > > > > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:16:02 +0530
> > > > > From: "Puneet Goel" <g.puneet at gmail.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India
> Conference
> > > > >        on      18th April, 2008
> > > > > To: india at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > >        <b73c9f030804202146p6051cda1q15a92413d5d3caa at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just want to know why don't we do these meets on IRC. Many people
> can
> > > > > participate and we can avoid the problems like noise disturbance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Puneet
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > amit gogna wrote:
> > > > > > > Following is the link giving details of OLPC India Conference :-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_India/Conference_calls#Minutes_of_Meeting
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > India mailing list
> > > > > > > India at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > A few points that I'd like to add:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The conference call sound quality was a bit of a problem, although
> I
> > > > > > don't think this was a problem with the setup. It sounded like
> someone
> > > > > > on the conference call was sitting in traffic...way too much
> traffic
> > > > > > noise. It was also suggested that we could perhaps look for a
> hybrid
> > > > > > conference call setup which would support dial-in and VoIP calls.
> I know
> > > > > > that Gizmo supports such a feature, but AFAIK the call in number
> is a
> > > > > > US-based number. See
> > > > > > http://gizmo5.com/pc/products/features/conference-calling/ for
> details.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In terms of the upcoming installs or pilots in India, I would
> reiterate
> > > > > > that interested people and parties should look to other pilots for
> > > > > > "lessons learned". Nepal and Pakistan come to mind, given their
> > > > > > proximity. I've seen a lot more public info on the Nepal pilot,
> though.
> > > > > > http://www.olenepal.org/ There are several issues that can be
> > > > > > categorized into hardware, software, localization, repairs,
> training,
> > > > > > etc. Many of these will be largely the same for most deployments,
> so no
> > > > > > reinvention is necessary. Some issues will of course be specific
> for
> > > > > > deployments in different parts of India, and those will have to be
> > > > > > addressed on a case by case basis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another item of concern is the level of awareness. I've talked to
> people
> > > > > > at a couple of different LUGs in India about the project, and I
> got a
> > > > > > sense if indifference from them. Perhaps we need a stronger push
> to
> > > > > > connect LUGs into different OLPC projects. LUGs tend to have goals
> > > > > > similar to what OLPC has. LUGs aren't really about Linux or FOSS
> as much
> > > > > > as they are about education! This was my suggestion to Gaurav
> (from
> > > > > > Punjab University) on the phone call. Gaurav's group at Punjab
> > > > > > University is doing interesting things in reaching out to the
> > > > > > communities. Gaurav: Can we hear from you on some of those
> activities?
> > > > > > Perhaps pointers to slides, blogs, etc.?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LUGs all over India can get involved and spread the word. They can
> go
> > > > > > out to the local communities and improve awareness. There is also
> a
> > > > > > perception that if you don't have an XO, you can't really do much.
> This
> > > > > > is not the case if you are using a live CD though. The current
> batch of
> > > > > > Live CDs (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LiveBackup_XO-LiveCD) provide
> a
> > > > > > large proportion of the functionality that one would see on an XO.
> > > > > > Perhaps this avenue should be explored more. After all, its really
> a
> > > > > > Fedora-derived distro. You could very well run an entire classroom
> of
> > > > > > these LiveCDs on regular desktops and still avail the features of
> Sugar!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then we have the localization bit. Sayamindu Dasgupta and others
> have
> > > > > > done a great job of setting up this resource. We need to be able
> to use
> > > > > > it to its fullest extent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Pootle (https://dev.laptop.org/translate/), we have:
> Afrikaans,
> > > > > > Amharic, Arabic, Aymara, Basque, Bengali, Bengali (India),
> Bulgarian,
> > > > > > Catalan, Chinese (China), Chinese (Hong Kong), Chinese (Taiwan),
> Czech,
> > > > > > Danish, Dari, Dutch, Dzongkha, English, English (South African),
> English
> > > > > > (US), Finnish, French, Friulian, Fula, Galician, Georgian, German,
> > > > > > Greek, Gujarati, Hausa, Hindi, Icelandic, Igbo, Italian, Japanese,
> > > > > > Khmer, Kinyarwanda, Korean, Kreyol, Macedonian, Malayalam,
> Maltese,
> > > > > > Marathi, Mongolian, Nepali, Pashto, Persian, Polish, Portuguese,
> > > > > > Portuguese (Brazil), Punjabi, Quechua, Romanian, Russian, Serbian,
> > > > > > Sindhi, Sinhala, Slovenian, Sotho, Spanish, Swedish, Tamil,
> Telugu,
> > > > > > Templates, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, Urdu, Vietnamese, Wolof,
> Yoruba,
> > > > > > pseudo L10n
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Look at the list and see if you have a language/script that's not
> on
> > > > > > there but you'd like to help with. For basic instructions on how
> to use
> > > > > > Pootle see http://opensource.sfsu.edu/node/452 The screenshots are
> a bit
> > > > > > dated, but the idea should get across. You'll notice on that same
> page
> > > > > > that the slides have been translated into Bulgarian and Chinese.
> How
> > > > > > about converting the slides into some Indian languages?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In all, I am quite excited to see things moving again on this
> list.
> > > > > > Let's hope we keep up the momentum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > Sameer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> > > > > > Associate Professor of Information Systems
> > > > > > San Francisco State University
> > > > > > San Francisco CA 94132 USA
> > > > > > http://verma.sfsu.edu/
> > > > > > http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > India mailing list
> > > > > > India at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india
> > > > > >
> > > > > -------------- next part --------------
> > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> > > > > URL:
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/india/attachments/20080421/5e785a71/attachment-0001.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 5
> > > > > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:54:02 -0700
> > > > > From: Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [OLPC India] Minutes of Meeting of OLPC India
> Conference
> > > > >        on 18th April, 2008
> > > > > To: Puneet Goel <g.puneet at gmail.com>
> > > > > Cc: india at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > Message-ID: <480C1DEA.8020301 at sfsu.edu>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > > > >
> > > > > Puneet Goel wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just want to know why don't we do these meets on IRC. Many people
> can
> > > > > > participate and we can avoid the problems like noise disturbance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Puneet
> > > > > >
> > > > > Sometimes you just can't get to a computer, but you can talk on the
> > > > > phone. I think voice calls actually convey a lot more than IRC
> channels.
> > > > > Of course, we can always have IRC in parallel. That's what we did
> for
> > > > > the server team conference.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sameer
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> > > > > Associate Professor of Information Systems
> > > > > San Francisco State University
> > > > > San Francisco CA 94132 USA
> > > > > http://verma.sfsu.edu/
> > > > > http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 6
> > > > > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:11:48 +0200
> > > > > From: Sven AERTS <svenaerts228 at gmail.com>
> > > > > Subject: [OLPC India] OLPC - Cowdung/Biogas power - Kyoto Protocol
> > > > >        logic
> > > > > To: india at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > Message-ID: <FBB71CE8-16DA-45C4-A434-AAF2D588AFFE at gmail.com>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes;
> > > > >        format=flowed
> > > > >
> > > > > Would it not be more feasible to use biogas for cooking and cooling,
> > > > > and brewing some vodka - I mean - ethanol to power a little fuel
> cell
> > > > > to run the OLPC ?
> > > > > Don't tell me there's no Vodka-equivalent over there... so the
> > > > > farmers know how to brew ethanol ...
> > > > >
> > > > > As a "Kyoto Protocol Consultant", I dare to say that prices of
> > > > > PhotoVoltaics or Fuel Cells shouldn't be a problem since the OLPC-
> > > > > organisation could claim the CO2-certificates for the whole project:
> > > > > 1. I think that opening up the olpc-project from a computer project
> > > > > to an education to a CO2-reducing project would enable the OLPC-
> > > > > education project to get access to the financial power behind the
> > > > > "Kyoto Protocol".
> > > > > I've posted a presentation on the matter:
> > > > > http://www.slideshare.net/SvenAERTS/olp-csmall
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. The logic is; A normal PC consumes an average x kWh.  Electricity
> > > > > is produced on the average in that country by emitting y tons of
> > > > > Greenhouse gasses. So using an OLPC only uses x-something kWh x 1
> > > > > million OLPC's in this country and the difference of the normal
> > > > > computers - olpc computers in Greenhouse gasses NOT emitted can be
> > > > > claimed as CO2 certificates and sold to CO2 emitting
> > > > > countries'governments and companies in the West that HAVE to buy
> CO2-
> > > > > certificates (price is now about 20?/CO2certificate.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. I'd say: present OLPC as a technique where you go via the kids
> and
> > > > > the schools to the parents and society as a whole to catalyze CO2-
> > > > > reducing projects and the accompanying CO2-certificates: let the
> > > > > ministiry of education make a list of all the Schools and public
> > > > > buildings ... get an agreement to equip them with PV, Solar
> > > > > collector, WindTurbine, relighting with low energy lamps ... get a
> > > > > mandate to present that to the "Kyoto Protocol" financiers that need
> > > > > CO2-certificates ... I am sure I can convince them to finance such a
> > > > > project under these conditions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Skype: SvenAERTS
> > > > > Kyoto Protocol Consultant-Brussels
> > > > > Engineer, Car Mechanic, Post Graduated in international Relations/
> > > > > Finance and Peace Development
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > India mailing list
> > > > > India at lists.laptop.org
> > > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > End of India Digest, Vol 17, Issue 11
> > > > > *************************************
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "The world is full of abundance and opportunity, but >far too many
> people come to the fountain of life with a sieve instead of a tank >car... a
> teaspoon instead of a steam shovel. They expect little and as a result >they
> get little." ~ Ben Sweetland
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Everything is either an opportunity to grow or an obstacle to keep
> you from growing. You get to choose."Dr. Wayne Dyer
> > > >
> > > > <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/aulia" ><img
> src="http://www.linkedin.com/img/webpromo/btn_profile_bluetxt_80x15.gif"
> width="80" height="15" border="0" alt="View usha gowri's profile on
> LinkedIn"></a>
> > > > http://auliaglobalfoundation.blogspot.com/
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > India mailing list
> > > > India at lists.laptop.org
> > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "The world is full of abundance and opportunity, but >far too many people
> come to the fountain of life with a sieve instead of a tank >car... a
> teaspoon instead of a steam shovel. They expect little and as a result >they
> get little." ~ Ben Sweetland
> >
> >
> > "Everything is either an opportunity to grow or an obstacle to keep you
> from growing. You get to choose."Dr. Wayne Dyer
> >
> > <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/aulia" ><img
> src="http://www.linkedin.com/img/webpromo/btn_profile_bluetxt_80x15.gif"
> width="80" height="15" border="0" alt="View usha gowri's profile on
> LinkedIn"></a>
> > http://auliaglobalfoundation.blogspot.com/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>  India mailing list
>  India at lists.laptop.org
>  http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/india
>
>



-- 
Arjun Sarwal
Intern, One Laptop per Child
Email: arjun at laptop.org
IRC: arjs on irc.freenode.net in #olpc, #olpc-health, #sugar


More information about the India mailing list