[Health] Health Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
Seth Woodworth
seth at isforinsects.com
Wed May 14 16:45:51 EDT 2008
Skype is free as in beer but not free as in speech. We have a couple
different voice chat options that would run with less over head than Skype
on the XO. Skype's benefit would be their integration into standard phone
lines, which is something that is pretty us-centric afaik.
WorldVistA runs as a character cell user interface on the xo already. It's
not the prettiest thing in the world, and we would need a doctor or medical
professional to look it over and decide if it was something they would like
to use.
Seth
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Tribley, Lloyd <tribleyl at ahca.myflorida.com>
wrote:
> Sorry for another post, but I just thought of an option that might work.
> Skype could be used to transmit the files. They can be taken (images) along
> with audio medical notes with the XO and transferred by Skype to the health
> care clinic or facility. Did I not read that Skype can be installed on the
> XO (thought I think with some difficulty)? Or, if' there's a regular
> computer in the region it could be used for the follow up. Skype also
> offer's instant messaging (for real time feedback on health/medical
> conditions), conference call capability (if there's sufficient bandwidth),
> and a Webcam option. On top of that, it's free.
>
>
>
> Just a thought.
>
>
>
> Lloyd…
>
>
>
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> health-bounces at lists.laptop.org] *On Behalf Of *adesina iluyemi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:37 AM
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>
> Hi Sebatian,
>
> This is not a western thinking. The scenario you described belwo is also
> applicable in developing countries' clinics.
> Adesina
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> 1. GNUmed for OLPC (Sebastian Hilbert)
> 2. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Chris Leonard)
> 3. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Edward Cherlin)
> 4. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Sebastian Hilbert)
> 5. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Edward Cherlin)
> 6. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Sebastian Hilbert)
> 7. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Arjun Sarwal)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 19:21:58 +0200
> From: Sebastian Hilbert <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
> Subject: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
> To: health at lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID: <200805031921.58602.sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am very new to the OLPC initiative. I am a doctor by profession and
> medical
> software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical record
> software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this software in
> OLPC
> environments.
>
> GNUmed (wiki.gnumed.de) is free software and is written in python and
> wxpython
> (GTK). It usually connects to a postgresql server but could also be made
> store its data in a sqlite database.
>
> I admit I know very little about medical IT needs in OLPC environments.
> maybe
> it is just pure overkill and out of scope.
>
> I imagine two possible uses. The individual OLPC could be used to enter
> very
> basic demographic information so organizations involved get a picture of
> who
> is in need of medical care (in general). the hardware (microphone and
> camera
> can be used to assess medical condtitions such as skin conditions or wounds
> and could then be assessed by more centralized medical personell like in a
> city. The use of Wifi coupled with asynchronous wifi networks (see
> http://www.nilshettich.com/olpcblog/) could transfer medical/health
> information both ways.
>
> Maybe this is just my Western thinking. In case this is way off the needs
> in
> OLPC environments just discard this message.
>
> I am greatful for any reply.
> --
> Sebastian Hilbert
> Leipzig / Germany
> [www.gnumed.de] -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:07:39 -0400
> From: "Chris Leonard" <cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
> To: sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net
> Cc: health at lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID:
> <203ade210805031107l6f96cb0j9b66f744a3da5fa0 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Sebastian,
>
> Welcome aboard!
>
> A great way to catch up on what's currently going on in the OLPC Health
> Project(s) is to start over on the wiki (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Health)
> and also look over other pages tagged as being health-related (
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Health). Information flow is often a
> mix
> of messages to this list, wiki-page creation and editing and even IRC chat
> on #olpc-health.
>
> GNUmed's status as open-source, and specifically being coded in Python
> could
> make it a good fit for use on the XO platform, although as you mention, it
> is an open question of whether EMR software is matched to a need at
> deployment sites, at least right now. There are others interested in
> making
> an electronic medical record systems available (see
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/WorldVistA), and I'm sure they would welcome
> discussion about GNUmed and electronic medical records in general.
>
> I hope you chose to stick around get involved with OLPC Health Project
> efforts, either with GNUmed specifically or with joining in on some other
> coding or content effort, because I think that the health-related work can
> use as much input from cross-trained (health and IT) contributors as
> possible. I also think that activity (application) development will have a
> lot to add to just a collection of textual content for the health library.
>
> My own interest at the moment is on building up that library and making it
> easier for others (especially health/science subject matter experts) to
> contribute.
>
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Cjl
> cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
>
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Sebastian Hilbert <
> sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am very new to the OLPC initiative. I am a doctor by profession and
> > medical
> > software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical
> record
> > software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this software in
> > OLPC
> > environments.
> >
> > GNUmed (wiki.gnumed.de) is free software and is written in python and
> > wxpython
> > (GTK). It usually connects to a postgresql server but could also be made
> > store its data in a sqlite database.
> >
> > I admit I know very little about medical IT needs in OLPC environments.
> > maybe
> > it is just pure overkill and out of scope.
> >
> > I imagine two possible uses. The individual OLPC could be used to enter
> > very
> > basic demographic information so organizations involved get a picture of
> > who
> > is in need of medical care (in general). the hardware (microphone and
> > camera
> > can be used to assess medical condtitions such as skin conditions or
> > wounds
> > and could then be assessed by more centralized medical personell like in
> a
> > city. The use of Wifi coupled with asynchronous wifi networks (see
> > http://www.nilshettich.com/olpcblog/) could transfer medical/health
> > information both ways.
> >
> > Maybe this is just my Western thinking. In case this is way off the needs
> > in
> > OLPC environments just discard this message.
> >
> > I am greatful for any reply.
> > --
> > Sebastian Hilbert
> > Leipzig / Germany
> > [www.gnumed.de] -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
> > _______________________________________________
> > Health mailing list
> > Health at lists.laptop.org
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/health
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:19:43 -0700
> From: "Edward Cherlin" <echerlin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
> To: sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net
> Cc: health at lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID:
> <e574f6eb0805032119p3d9af69am569049907eb1b9e8 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Sebastian Hilbert
> <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am very new to the OLPC initiative.
>
> Welcome.
>
> > I am a doctor by profession and medical
> > software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical
> record
> > software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this software in
> OLPC
> > environments.
>
> One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the telemedicine
> kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There is a
> project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording data
> from a low-cost EKG device.
>
> We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
> software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web site at
> http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/. Some
> of the presentation videos are now available from there.
>
> > GNUmed (wiki.gnumed.de) is free software and is written in python and
> wxpython
> > (GTK). It usually connects to a postgresql server but could also be made
> > store its data in a sqlite database.
> >
> > I admit I know very little about medical IT needs in OLPC environments.
> maybe
> > it is just pure overkill and out of scope.
> >
> > I imagine two possible uses. The individual OLPC could be used to enter
> very
> > basic demographic information so organizations involved get a picture of
> who
> > is in need of medical care (in general). the hardware (microphone and
> camera
> > can be used to assess medical condtitions such as skin conditions or
> wounds
> > and could then be assessed by more centralized medical personell like in
> a
> > city. The use of Wifi coupled with asynchronous wifi networks (see
> > http://www.nilshettich.com/olpcblog/) could transfer medical/health
> > information both ways.
>
> A number of organizations are interested in community-based data
> gathering for mapping and other information projects. Your software
> has obvious public health applications.
>
> > Maybe this is just my Western thinking. In case this is way off the
> needs in
> > OLPC environments just discard this message.
>
> You must think as you do, not being anybody else than yourself. That
> is not the problem, which only arises if you fail to ask those whom
> you would help how your proposal would fit with what they really need.
> Of course, you still have to find out how to present your proposal in
> terms that make sense to those people.
>
> > I am greatful for any reply.
> > --
> > Sebastian Hilbert
> > Leipzig / Germany
> > [www.gnumed.de] -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
> > _______________________________________________
> > Health mailing list
> > Health at lists.laptop.org
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/health
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Edward Cherlin
> End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business
> http://www.EarthTreasury.org/
> "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 12:10:22 +0200
> From: Sebastian Hilbert <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
> To: health at lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID: <200805041210.23326.sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> >
> > > I am a doctor by profession and medical
> > > software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical
> > > record software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this
> > > software in OLPC environments.
> >
> > One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the telemedicine
> > kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There is a
> > project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording data
> > from a low-cost EKG device.
> Where can I find more information on that ?
>
> >
> > We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
> > software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web site at
> > http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/. Some
> > of the presentation videos are now available from there.
>
> I have followed the community for some time. GNUmed is largely absent from
> the
> radar as it has no billing component and therefore not large userbase. It
> is
> however an EMR and not aimed at large clinics.
>
> As we are Germany based there has not been any attempt to add US specific
> features such as billing.
>
> For the time being I will test if GNUmed runs on the OLPC but if that makes
> sense would be up to local deployers.
>
> Take care,
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Hilbert
> Leipzig / Germany
> [www.gnumed.de] -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 03:27:08 -0700
> From: "Edward Cherlin" <echerlin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
> To: sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net
> Cc: health at lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID:
> <e574f6eb0805040327je0dc149oada8793fc0521d67 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Sebastian Hilbert
> <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
> > On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am a doctor by profession and medical
> > > > software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical
> > > > record software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this
> > > > software in OLPC environments.
> > >
> > > One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the telemedicine
> > > kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There is a
> > > project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording data
> > > from a low-cost EKG device.
> > Where can I find more information on that ?
>
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/health/2008-March/000054.html
>
> > > We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
> > > software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web site at
> > > http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/.
> Some
> > > of the presentation videos are now available from there.
> >
> > I have followed the community for some time. GNUmed is largely absent
> from the
> > radar as it has no billing component and therefore not large userbase.
> It is
> > however an EMR and not aimed at large clinics.
> >
> > As we are Germany based there has not been any attempt to add US
> specific
> > features such as billing.
>
> We have some hope of getting over that nonsense in the next few years,
> but we aren't holding our breaths.
>
> > For the time being I will test if GNUmed runs on the OLPC but if that
> makes
> > sense would be up to local deployers.
>
> If there is a Red Hat package for it, you should have no trouble doing
> a yum install on an XO. People on the devel list, notable Albert
> Cahalan, can help you get it Sugarized. I see the Ubuntu
> (Debian-style) packages in their repository.
>
> > Take care,
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Sebastian Hilbert
> > Leipzig / Germany
> > [www.gnumed.de] -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
> > _______________________________________________
> > Health mailing list
> > Health at lists.laptop.org
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/health
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Edward Cherlin
> End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business
> http://www.EarthTreasury.org/
> "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 12:51:28 +0200
> From: Sebastian Hilbert <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
> To: health at lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID: <200805041251.28395.sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Sebastian Hilbert
> >
> > <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
> > > On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > > > > I am a doctor by profession and medical
> > > > > software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed
> medical
> > > > > record software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of
> this
> > > > > software in OLPC environments.
> > > >
> > > > One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the
> telemedicine
> > > > kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There is a
> > > > project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording data
> > > > from a low-cost EKG device.
> > >
> > > Where can I find more information on that ?
> >
> > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/health/2008-March/000054.html
> >
> > > > We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
> > > > software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web site
> at
> > > > http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/.
> Some
> > > > of the presentation videos are now available from there.
> > >
> > > I have followed the community for some time. GNUmed is largely absent
> > > from the radar as it has no billing component and therefore not large
> > > userbase. It is however an EMR and not aimed at large clinics.
> > >
> > > As we are Germany based there has not been any attempt to add US
> > > specific features such as billing.
> >
> > We have some hope of getting over that nonsense in the next few years,
> > but we aren't holding our breaths.
> >
> > > For the time being I will test if GNUmed runs on the OLPC but if that
> > > makes sense would be up to local deployers.
> >
> > If there is a Red Hat package for it, you should have no trouble doing
> > a yum install on an XO. People on the devel list, notable Albert
> > Cahalan, can help you get it Sugarized. I see the Ubuntu
> > (Debian-style) packages in their repository.
>
> I hope it is installable. Fedora 7 package is here:
>
> ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/SebastianHilbert/Fedora_7
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Hilbert
> Leipzig / Germany
> [www.gnumed.de] -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 20:08:46 +0530
> From: "Arjun Sarwal" <arjun at laptop.org>
> Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
> To: sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net
> Cc: health at lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID:
> <dc942fa10805040738x4791375xafdb18ca0a253ea9 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I don't have access to my devel machine here, so I can install it when
> I get there to check. It should be installable, just that if you could
> list dependencies of this package , it would help to better determine
> what all additional packages would be needed to be installed and
> whether they are already there on the XO as part of the default build
> or not...
>
> best regards
> Arjun
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Sebastian Hilbert
> <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Sebastian Hilbert
> > >
> > > <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
> > > > On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > > > > > I am a doctor by profession and medical
> > > > > > software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed
> medical
> > > > > > record software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of
> this
> > > > > > software in OLPC environments.
> > > > >
> > > > > One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the
> telemedicine
> > > > > kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There
> is a
> > > > > project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording
> data
> > > > > from a low-cost EKG device.
> > > >
> > > > Where can I find more information on that ?
> > >
> > > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/health/2008-March/000054.html
> > >
> > > > > We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
> > > > > software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web
> site at
> > > > > http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/.
> Some
> > > > > of the presentation videos are now available from there.
> > > >
> > > > I have followed the community for some time. GNUmed is largely
> absent
> > > > from the radar as it has no billing component and therefore not
> large
> > > > userbase. It is however an EMR and not aimed at large clinics.
> > > >
> > > > As we are Germany based there has not been any attempt to add US
> > > > specific features such as billing.
> > >
> > > We have some hope of getting over that nonsense in the next few years,
> > > but we aren't holding our breaths.
> > >
> > > > For the time being I will test if GNUmed runs on the OLPC but if
> that
> > > > makes sense would be up to local deployers.
> > >
> > > If there is a Red Hat package for it, you should have no trouble doing
> > > a yum install on an XO. People on the devel list, notable Albert
> > > Cahalan, can help you get it Sugarized. I see the Ubuntu
> > > (Debian-style) packages in their repository.
> >
> > I hope it is installable. Fedora 7 package is here:
> >
> ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/SebastianHilbert/Fedora_7
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Sebastian Hilbert
> > Leipzig / Germany
> > [www.gnumed.de] -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
> > _______________________________________________
> > Health mailing list
> > Health at lists.laptop.org
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/health
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Arjun Sarwal
> Intern, One Laptop per Child
> http://dev.laptop.org/~arjs/ <http://dev.laptop.org/%7Earjs/>
>
>
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