[Health] Health Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1

Tribley, Lloyd tribleyl at ahca.myflorida.com
Wed May 14 11:04:14 EDT 2008


Sorry for another post, but I just thought of an option that might work.
Skype could be used to transmit the files. They can be taken (images)
along with audio medical notes with the XO and transferred by Skype to
the health care clinic or facility. Did I not read that Skype can be
installed on the XO (thought I think with some difficulty)? Or, if'
there's a regular computer in the region it could be used for the follow
up. Skype also offer's instant messaging (for real time feedback on
health/medical conditions), conference call capability (if there's
sufficient bandwidth), and a Webcam option. On top of that, it's free. 

 

Just a thought.

 

Lloyd...

 

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[mailto:health-bounces at lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of adesina iluyemi
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Hi Sebatian,

This is not a western thinking. The scenario you described belwo is also
applicable in developing countries' clinics.
Adesina

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Today's Topics:

  1. GNUmed for OLPC (Sebastian Hilbert)
  2. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Chris Leonard)
  3. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Edward Cherlin)
  4. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Sebastian Hilbert)
  5. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Edward Cherlin)
  6. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Sebastian Hilbert)
  7. Re: GNUmed for OLPC (Arjun Sarwal)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 19:21:58 +0200
From: Sebastian Hilbert <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
Subject: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
To: health at lists.laptop.org
Message-ID: <200805031921.58602.sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
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Hi all,

I am very new to the OLPC initiative. I am a doctor by profession and
medical
software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical
record
software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this software in
OLPC
environments.

GNUmed (wiki.gnumed.de) is free software and is written in python and
wxpython
(GTK). It usually connects to a postgresql server but could also be made
store its data in a sqlite database.

I admit I know very little about medical IT needs in OLPC environments.
maybe
it is just pure overkill and out of scope.

I imagine two possible uses. The individual OLPC could be used to enter
very
basic demographic information so organizations involved get a picture of
who
is in need of medical care (in general). the hardware (microphone and
camera
can be used to assess medical condtitions such as skin conditions or
wounds
and could then be assessed by more centralized medical personell like in
a
city. The use of Wifi coupled with asynchronous wifi networks (see
http://www.nilshettich.com/olpcblog/) could transfer medical/health
information both ways.

Maybe this is just my Western thinking. In case this is way off the
needs in
OLPC environments just discard this message.

I am greatful for any reply.
--
Sebastian Hilbert
Leipzig / Germany
[www.gnumed.de]  -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:07:39 -0400
From: "Chris Leonard" <cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
To: sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net
Cc: health at lists.laptop.org
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Sebastian,

Welcome aboard!

A great way to catch up on what's currently going on in the OLPC Health
Project(s) is to start over on the wiki (
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Health)
and also look over other pages tagged as being health-related (
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Health).  Information flow is often a
mix
of messages to this list, wiki-page creation and editing and even IRC
chat
on #olpc-health.

GNUmed's status as open-source, and specifically being coded in Python
could
make it a good fit for use on the XO platform, although as you mention,
it
is an open question of whether EMR software is matched to a need at
deployment sites, at least right now.  There are others interested in
making
an electronic medical record systems available (see
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/WorldVistA), and I'm sure they would welcome
discussion about GNUmed and electronic medical records in general.

I hope you chose to stick around get involved with OLPC Health Project
efforts, either with GNUmed specifically or with joining in on some
other
coding or content effort, because I think that the health-related work
can
use as much input from cross-trained (health and IT) contributors as
possible.  I also think that activity (application) development will
have a
lot to add to just a collection of textual content for the health
library.

My own interest at the moment is on building up that library and making
it
easier for others (especially health/science subject matter experts) to
contribute.


http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Cjl
cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Sebastian Hilbert <
sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am very new to the OLPC initiative. I am a doctor by profession and
> medical
> software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical
record
> software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this software
in
> OLPC
> environments.
>
> GNUmed (wiki.gnumed.de) is free software and is written in python and
> wxpython
> (GTK). It usually connects to a postgresql server but could also be
made
> store its data in a sqlite database.
>
> I admit I know very little about medical IT needs in OLPC
environments.
> maybe
> it is just pure overkill and out of scope.
>
> I imagine two possible uses. The individual OLPC could be used to
enter
> very
> basic demographic information so organizations involved get a picture
of
> who
> is in need of medical care (in general). the hardware (microphone and
> camera
> can be used to assess medical condtitions such as skin conditions or
> wounds
> and could then be assessed by more centralized medical personell like
in a
> city. The use of Wifi coupled with asynchronous wifi networks (see
> http://www.nilshettich.com/olpcblog/) could transfer medical/health
> information both ways.
>
> Maybe this is just my Western thinking. In case this is way off the
needs
> in
> OLPC environments just discard this message.
>
> I am greatful for any reply.
> --
> Sebastian Hilbert
> Leipzig / Germany
> [www.gnumed.de]  -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:19:43 -0700
From: "Edward Cherlin" <echerlin at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
To: sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net
Cc: health at lists.laptop.org
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On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Sebastian Hilbert
<sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>  I am very new to the OLPC initiative.

Welcome.

>  I am a doctor by profession and medical
>  software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical
record
>  software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this software
in OLPC
>  environments.

One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the telemedicine
kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There is a
project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording data
from a low-cost EKG device.

We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web site at
http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/. Some
of the presentation videos are now available from there.

>  GNUmed (wiki.gnumed.de) is free software and is written in python and
wxpython
>  (GTK). It usually connects to a postgresql server but could also be
made
>  store its data in a sqlite database.
>
>  I admit I know very little about medical IT needs in OLPC
environments. maybe
>  it is just pure overkill and out of scope.
>
>  I imagine two possible uses. The individual OLPC could be used to
enter very
>  basic demographic information so organizations involved get a picture
of who
>  is in need of medical care (in general). the hardware (microphone and
camera
>  can be used to assess medical condtitions such as skin conditions or
wounds
>  and could then be assessed by more centralized medical personell like
in a
>  city. The use of Wifi coupled with asynchronous wifi networks (see
>  http://www.nilshettich.com/olpcblog/) could transfer medical/health
>  information both ways.

A number of organizations are interested in community-based data
gathering for mapping and other information projects. Your software
has obvious public health applications.

>  Maybe this is just my Western thinking. In case this is way off the
needs in
>  OLPC environments just discard this message.

You must think as you do, not being anybody else than yourself. That
is not the problem, which only arises if you fail to ask those whom
you would help how your proposal would fit with what they really need.
Of course, you still have to find out how to present your proposal in
terms that make sense to those people.

>  I am greatful for any reply.
>  --
>  Sebastian Hilbert
>  Leipzig / Germany
>  [www.gnumed.de]  -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
>  _______________________________________________
>  Health mailing list
>  Health at lists.laptop.org
>  http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/health
>



--
Edward Cherlin
End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business
http://www.EarthTreasury.org/
"The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 12:10:22 +0200
From: Sebastian Hilbert <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
To: health at lists.laptop.org
Message-ID: <200805041210.23326.sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"

On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>
> >  I am a doctor by profession and medical
> >  software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed medical
> > record software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of this
> > software in OLPC environments.
>
> One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the telemedicine
> kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There is a
> project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording data
> from a low-cost EKG device.
Where can I find more information on that ?

>
> We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
> software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web site at
> http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/. Some
> of the presentation videos are now available from there.

I have followed the community for some time. GNUmed is largely absent
from the
radar as it has no billing component and therefore not large userbase.
It is
however an EMR and not aimed at large clinics.

As we are Germany based there has not been any attempt to add US
specific
features such as billing.

For the time being I will test if GNUmed runs on the OLPC but if that
makes
sense would be up to local deployers.

Take care,


--
Sebastian Hilbert
Leipzig / Germany
[www.gnumed.de]  -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 03:27:08 -0700
From: "Edward Cherlin" <echerlin at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
To: sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net
Cc: health at lists.laptop.org
Message-ID:
       <e574f6eb0805040327je0dc149oada8793fc0521d67 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Sebastian Hilbert
<sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
> On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>  >
>  > >  I am a doctor by profession and medical
>  > >  software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed
medical
>  > > record software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of
this
>  > > software in OLPC environments.
>  >
>  > One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the
telemedicine
>  > kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There is
a
>  > project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording data
>  > from a low-cost EKG device.
>  Where can I find more information on that ?

http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/health/2008-March/000054.html

>  > We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
>  > software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web site
at
>  > http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/.
Some
>  > of the presentation videos are now available from there.
>
>  I have followed the community for some time. GNUmed is largely absent
from the
>  radar as it has no billing component and therefore not large
userbase. It is
>  however an EMR and not aimed at large clinics.
>
>  As we are Germany based there has not been any attempt to add US
specific
>  features such as billing.

We have some hope of getting over that nonsense in the next few years,
but we aren't holding our breaths.

>  For the time being I will test if GNUmed runs on the OLPC but if that
makes
>  sense would be up to local deployers.

If there is a Red Hat package for it, you should have no trouble doing
a yum install on an XO. People on the devel list, notable Albert
Cahalan, can help you get it Sugarized. I see the Ubuntu
(Debian-style) packages in their repository.

>  Take care,
>
>
>  --
>
>
> Sebastian Hilbert
>  Leipzig / Germany
>  [www.gnumed.de]  -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
>  _______________________________________________
>  Health mailing list
>  Health at lists.laptop.org
>  http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/health
>



--
Edward Cherlin
End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business
http://www.EarthTreasury.org/
"The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 12:51:28 +0200
From: Sebastian Hilbert <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
To: health at lists.laptop.org
Message-ID: <200805041251.28395.sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"

On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Sebastian Hilbert
>
> <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
> > On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> >  > >  I am a doctor by profession and medical
> >  > >  software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed
medical
> >  > > record software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests of
this
> >  > > software in OLPC environments.
> >  >
> >  > One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the
telemedicine
> >  > kits that some of us and other developers are working on. There
is a
> >  > project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording
data
> >  > from a low-cost EKG device.
> >
> >  Where can I find more information on that ?
>
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/health/2008-March/000054.html
>
> >  > We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health care
> >  > software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web
site at
> >  > http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/.
Some
> >  > of the presentation videos are now available from there.
> >
> >  I have followed the community for some time. GNUmed is largely
absent
> > from the radar as it has no billing component and therefore not
large
> > userbase. It is however an EMR and not aimed at large clinics.
> >
> >  As we are Germany based there has not been any attempt to add US
> > specific features such as billing.
>
> We have some hope of getting over that nonsense in the next few years,
> but we aren't holding our breaths.
>
> >  For the time being I will test if GNUmed runs on the OLPC but if
that
> > makes sense would be up to local deployers.
>
> If there is a Red Hat package for it, you should have no trouble doing
> a yum install on an XO. People on the devel list, notable Albert
> Cahalan, can help you get it Sugarized. I see the Ubuntu
> (Debian-style) packages in their repository.

I hope it is installable. Fedora 7 package is here:
ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/SebastianHilbert/Fedo
ra_7




--
Sebastian Hilbert
Leipzig / Germany
[www.gnumed.de]  -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 20:08:46 +0530
From: "Arjun Sarwal" <arjun at laptop.org>
Subject: Re: [Health] GNUmed for OLPC
To: sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net
Cc: health at lists.laptop.org
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I don't have access to my devel machine here, so I can install it when
I get there to check. It should be installable, just that if you could
list dependencies of this package , it would help to better determine
what all additional packages would be needed to be installed and
whether they are already there on the XO as part of the default build
or not...

best regards
Arjun

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Sebastian Hilbert
<sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
>
> On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>  > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Sebastian Hilbert
>  >
>  > <sebastian.hilbert at gmx.net> wrote:
>  > > On Sonntag 04 Mai 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>  > >  > >  I am a doctor by profession and medical
>  > >  > >  software developer by choice. I am involved with the GNUmed
medical
>  > >  > > record software. I am wondering if you see any use in tests
of this
>  > >  > > software in OLPC environments.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > One question is whether we can integrate GNUmed with the
telemedicine
>  > >  > kits that some of us and other developers are working on.
There is a
>  > >  > project in Google Summer of Code to use Measure for recording
data
>  > >  > from a low-cost EKG device.
>  > >
>  > >  Where can I find more information on that ?
>  >
>  > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/health/2008-March/000054.html
>  >
>  > >  > We have contacts with a number of other Open Source health
care
>  > >  > software providers. You can find many of them on the SCALE web
site at
>  > >  > 
http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/schedules/. Some
>  > >  > of the presentation videos are now available from there.
>  > >
>  > >  I have followed the community for some time. GNUmed is largely
absent
>  > > from the radar as it has no billing component and therefore not
large
>  > > userbase. It is however an EMR and not aimed at large clinics.
>  > >
>  > >  As we are Germany based there has not been any attempt to add US
>  > > specific features such as billing.
>  >
>  > We have some hope of getting over that nonsense in the next few
years,
>  > but we aren't holding our breaths.
>  >
>  > >  For the time being I will test if GNUmed runs on the OLPC but if
that
>  > > makes sense would be up to local deployers.
>  >
>  > If there is a Red Hat package for it, you should have no trouble
doing
>  > a yum install on an XO. People on the devel list, notable Albert
>  > Cahalan, can help you get it Sugarized. I see the Ubuntu
>  > (Debian-style) packages in their repository.
>
>  I hope it is installable. Fedora 7 package is here:
>  
ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/SebastianHilbert/Fedo
ra_7
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
>
> Sebastian Hilbert
>  Leipzig / Germany
>  [www.gnumed.de]  -> PGP welcome, HTML ->/dev/null
>  _______________________________________________
>  Health mailing list
>  Health at lists.laptop.org
>  http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/health
>



--
Arjun Sarwal
Intern, One Laptop per Child
http://dev.laptop.org/~arjs/ <http://dev.laptop.org/%7Earjs/> 


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