[Etoys] A few notes on eToys interface - playing with latest eToys in olpc
bert at freudenbergs.de
Wed Apr 11 06:41:02 EDT 2007
I like the Smallland bar. We should try to mimic the OLPC interface
though, like Yoshiki's bar does.
- Bert -
On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:14 , Diego Gomez Deck wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>> Hi Diego -
>> As nice as it sounds I don't think switching to 3.9 is a real
>> option at
>> this point. There is quite a bit of heritage to the OLPC line of
>> that would need to be recreated in 3.9 and it would be quite a
>> gamble to
>> switch the basis for OLPC at this point (remember: summer is
>> supposed to
>> be the drop-dead date for the first several million OLPC units).
> Sure. In fact I'm not proposing switch to 3.9. I propose to "backport"
> the Small-Land changes to OLPC image.
>> One thing that would be helpful though is if you could point out
>> the relevant portions of this work in 3.9 are - porting it to OLPC
>> sounds a lot more viable than porting OLPC to 3.9 ;-)
> Do you remember the BigBang* changesets? I think I remember you used
> them as an counter example for the declarative monticello model.
> In any case, I can do the port for myself in case you like it.
>> - Andreas
> -- Diego
>> Diego Gomez Deck wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>> Almost all of the features you're talking about are already
>>> (and working for years) in the Small-Land image.
>>> In beginner mode, the dockbars can't be removed nor moved nor sized.
>>> But in non-beginner mode, the standard halos are available to
>>> handle the
>>> More to say: This Small-Land changes are already included in 3.9. I
>>> propose to use/expand THIS work instead of create another
>>> -- Diego
>>>> Thank you for the feedback!
>>>>> Why did you make that flap unremovable? I can't even get a halo on
>>>>> it. It should be visible by default, I agree, but shouldn't
>>>>> there be
>>>>> a way to hide it, too?
>>>> I was thinking about the classroom setting, where the teacher
>>>> wouldn't want to deal with dissappearing menu bars. (For that
>>>> The earlier Japanese version of Etoys suppress the halo for
>>>> flap. It has certain advantages, as many number of kids dismiss
>>>> navigator when they learned how to delete a morph via "X" icon.)
>>>> From the flap menu, it should be able to hide and show the "Sugar
>>>> Navigator Flap." (But clearly my logic of it is flawed and it
>>>> work quite as expected.) I'm not sure if allowing the
>>>> manipulation on
>>>> it via halo is a good idea. (For some demo purpose, it would be
>>>> absolute fun to be able to script that bar, though...)
>>>> -- Yoshiki
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