[support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot

[Gonzalo Odiard]

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Holt <holt at laptop.org> wrote:

>  On 5/13/2013 10:45 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>
> Why? Can't be in a script?
>
>
> We can't run a script if we cannot boot =)
>
> (Due to firmware incompatibility w/ NTFS USB drives, forcing us to the
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok prompt, preventing auto-boot)
>
>
>
Of course :)
That need be solved.




>  Gonzalo
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Holt <holt at laptop.org> wrote:
>
>>  Indeed...but this is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to auto-boot
>> after "daily" power failures in the developing world :)
>>
>>
>> On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:
>>
>>  NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just not by the OS Kernel itself.
>>
>>  The ntfs-3g "filesystem in userspace" package can be used to mount NTFS
>> drives.  So you should be able to use a command like "mount -t ntfs-3g
>> /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint" if Sugar or GNOME do not automatically
>> mount the filesystem for you.
>>
>>  In general many Linux distributions seem to currently consider using
>> ntfs-3g a better approach than using the kernel driver.  The in-kernel
>> driver still may not have full NTFS write support, while ntfs-3g does.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis <
>> mavrothal at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set).
>>> It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS.
>>> I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and  is universal.
>>> However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your needs
>>> (reliability, permissions etc)
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock <braddock at braddock.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: Braddock <braddock at braddock.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open
>>> content on XO/XS--won't boot
>>> > To: "James Cameron" <quozl at laptop.org>, "Holt" <holt at laptop.org>, "XS
>>> Devel" <server-devel at lists.laptop.org>, "Support Gangsters" <
>>> support-gang at laptop.org>, "Devel's in the Details" <
>>> devel at lists.laptop.org>
>>> > Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM
>>>  > Hi James
>>> > I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26  EC Firmware 0.4.03
>>> >
>>> > I have tried turning the "boot" flag off on the NTFS
>>> > partition, but it
>>> > still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt.
>>> >
>>> > I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to
>>> > NTFS and trying
>>> > to boot with it plugged in.
>>> >
>>> > So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB
>>> > media.
>>> >
>>> > -braddock
>>> >
>>> > On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote:
>>> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote:
>>> > >> Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive
>>> > attached to an XO?
>>> > >> At our XS Community Sprint this week outside
>>> > Toronto, we've been
>>> > >> unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s)
>>> > containing very
>>> > >> polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org
>>> > >> The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving
>>> > the screen at
>>> > >> the OK prompt.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of:
>>> > >> * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most
>>> > all images
>>> > >> * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all
>>> > zoom levels for
>>> > >> fast display
>>> > >> * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+
>>> > books, images
>>> > >> * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Does firmware currently block the mounting of all
>>> > large USB drives
>>> > >> -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems?
>>> > > Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked
>>> > bootable.
>>> > >
>>> > > Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware
>>> > version, but clearly
>>> > > in your case it stops booting.
>>> > >
>>> > >> Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers
>>> > in Haiti (etc!)
>>> > >> can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free
>>> > content?
>>> > > Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning
>>> > program, ensure you
>>> > > are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial
>>> > console for
>>> > > further debugging.
>>> > >
>>> > > If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then
>>> > I'm quite sure I
>>> > > can get it fixed.  I certainly can't afford to
>>> > download 700 GB or 1 TB
>>> > > to do that though.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an
>>> > XO-4.
>>> > >
>>> > > The nature and value of the content has no relationship
>>> > to the
>>> > > diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless.
>>> > >
>>> >
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