<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    On 5/13/2013 10:45 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Why? Can't be in a script?</div>
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    We can't run a script if we cannot boot =)<br>
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    (Due to firmware incompatibility w/ NTFS USB drives, forcing us to
    the <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok</a> prompt, preventing auto-boot)<div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>Of course :)</div><div style>That need be solved.</div><div style><br></div><div style><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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        <div>Gonzalo</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM,
            Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span>
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Indeed...but this
                is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to auto-boot
                after "daily" power failures in the developing world :)
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                    <div>On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:<br>
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                          <div>NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just
                            not by the OS Kernel itself.<br>
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                          The ntfs-3g "filesystem in userspace" package
                          can be used to mount NTFS drives.  So you
                          should be able to use a command like "mount -t
                          ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint"
                          if Sugar or GNOME do not automatically mount
                          the filesystem for you.<br>
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                        In general many Linux distributions seem to
                        currently consider using ntfs-3g a better
                        approach than using the kernel driver.  The
                        in-kernel driver still may not have full NTFS
                        write support, while ntfs-3g does.<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 13, 2013 at
                          9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mavrothal@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mavrothal@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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                            *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not
                            set).<br>
                            It either should be activated in future
                            builds or use another FS.<br>
                            I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big
                            drives and  is universal.<br>
                            However it has a number of other problems
                            that may not suit your needs (reliability,
                            permissions etc)<br>
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                            --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock <<a href="mailto:braddock@braddock.com" target="_blank">braddock@braddock.com</a>>

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                            > From: Braddock <<a href="mailto:braddock@braddock.com" target="_blank">braddock@braddock.com</a>><br>
                            > Subject: Re: [support-gang]
                            [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open
                            content on XO/XS--won't boot<br>
                            > To: "James Cameron" <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>>,
                            "Holt" <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>>,
                            "XS Devel" <<a href="mailto:server-devel@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">server-devel@lists.laptop.org</a>>,

                            "Support Gangsters" <<a href="mailto:support-gang@laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@laptop.org</a>>,

                            "Devel's in the Details" <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">devel@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
                            > Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM<br>
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                              <div>> Hi James<br>
                                > I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26  EC
                                Firmware 0.4.03<br>
                                ><br>
                                > I have tried turning the "boot"
                                flag off on the NTFS<br>
                                > partition, but it<br>
                                > still dumps me to the OpenFirmware
                                ok prompt.<br>
                                ><br>
                                > I can reproduce the problem by
                                formatting a USB stick to<br>
                                > NTFS and trying<br>
                                > to boot with it plugged in.<br>
                                ><br>
                                > So it is reacting badly to the mere
                                presence of NTFS on USB<br>
                                > media.<br>
                                ><br>
                                > -braddock<br>
                                ><br>
                                > On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James
                                Cameron wrote:<br>
                                > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at
                                03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote:<br>
                                > >> Is there a way to boot a
                                large USB hard drive<br>
                                > attached to an XO?<br>
                                > >> At our XS Community Sprint
                                this week outside<br>
                                > Toronto, we've been<br>
                                > >> unable to boot XOs with
                                the 700+ GB drive(s)<br>
                                > containing very<br>
                                > >> polished open content
                                provided by <a href="http://internet-in-a-box.org" target="_blank">http://internet-in-a-box.org</a><br>
                                > >> The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc)
                                refuse to auto-boot, leaving<br>
                                > the screen at<br>
                                > >> the OK prompt.<br>
                                > >><br>
                                > >> FYI our 1TB disk is a
                                nearly complete snapshot of:<br>
                                > >> *
                                Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails
                                for most<br>
                                > all images<br>
                                > >> * OpenStreetMap for the
                                whole world cached at all<br>
                                > zoom levels for<br>
                                > >> fast display<br>
                                > >> * Gutenberg Prjct's full
                                collection of 40,000+<br>
                                > books, images<br>
                                > >> * Khan Academy's ~4000
                                video classes, etc<br>
                                > >><br>
                                > >> Does firmware currently
                                block the mounting of all<br>
                                > large USB drives<br>
                                > >> -- NTFS in this case if
                                not other filesystems?<br>
                                > > Open Firmware tries the first
                                partition that is marked<br>
                                > bootable.<br>
                                > ><br>
                                > > Exactly what it does next
                                depends on the firmware<br>
                                > version, but clearly<br>
                                > > in your case it stops booting.<br>
                                > ><br>
                                > >> Might there be a
                                workaround so isolated XO servers<br>
                                > in Haiti (etc!)<br>
                                > >> can hopefully auto-boot
                                with this quality free<br>
                                > content?<br>
                                > > Turn off the bootable flag
                                using a partitioning<br>
                                > program, ensure you<br>
                                > > are using latest firmware
                                Q7B30, and attach a serial<br>
                                > console for<br>
                                > > further debugging.<br>
                                > ><br>
                                > > If you can tell me how to
                                reproduce the symptom, then<br>
                                > I'm quite sure I<br>
                                > > can get it fixed.  I certainly
                                can't afford to<br>
                                > download 700 GB or 1 TB<br>
                                > > to do that though.<br>
                                > ><br>
                                > > I'm happy to work with whoever
                                has the drive and an<br>
                                > XO-4.<br>
                                > ><br>
                                > > The nature and value of the
                                content has no relationship<br>
                                > to the<br>
                                > > diagnosis process, but is
                                interesting regardless.<br>
                                > ><br>
                                ><br>
                                >
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