<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 5/13/2013 10:45 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:<br>
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We can't run a script if we cannot boot =)<br>
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(Due to firmware incompatibility w/ NTFS USB drives, forcing us to
the <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok</a> prompt, preventing auto-boot)<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>Of course :)</div><div style>That need be solved.</div><div style><br></div><div style><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM,
Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Indeed...but this
is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to auto-boot
after "daily" power failures in the developing world :)
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<div>On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:<br>
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<div>NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just
not by the OS Kernel itself.<br>
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The ntfs-3g "filesystem in userspace" package
can be used to mount NTFS drives. So you
should be able to use a command like "mount -t
ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint"
if Sugar or GNOME do not automatically mount
the filesystem for you.<br>
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In general many Linux distributions seem to
currently consider using ntfs-3g a better
approach than using the kernel driver. The
in-kernel driver still may not have full NTFS
write support, while ntfs-3g does.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 13, 2013 at
9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mavrothal@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mavrothal@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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*not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not
set).<br>
It either should be activated in future
builds or use another FS.<br>
I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big
drives and is universal.<br>
However it has a number of other problems
that may not suit your needs (reliability,
permissions etc)<br>
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--- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock <<a href="mailto:braddock@braddock.com" target="_blank">braddock@braddock.com</a>>
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> From: Braddock <<a href="mailto:braddock@braddock.com" target="_blank">braddock@braddock.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [support-gang]
[Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open
content on XO/XS--won't boot<br>
> To: "James Cameron" <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>>,
"Holt" <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>>,
"XS Devel" <<a href="mailto:server-devel@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">server-devel@lists.laptop.org</a>>,
"Support Gangsters" <<a href="mailto:support-gang@laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@laptop.org</a>>,
"Devel's in the Details" <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">devel@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM<br>
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<div>> Hi James<br>
> I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC
Firmware 0.4.03<br>
><br>
> I have tried turning the "boot"
flag off on the NTFS<br>
> partition, but it<br>
> still dumps me to the OpenFirmware
ok prompt.<br>
><br>
> I can reproduce the problem by
formatting a USB stick to<br>
> NTFS and trying<br>
> to boot with it plugged in.<br>
><br>
> So it is reacting badly to the mere
presence of NTFS on USB<br>
> media.<br>
><br>
> -braddock<br>
><br>
> On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James
Cameron wrote:<br>
> > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at
03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote:<br>
> >> Is there a way to boot a
large USB hard drive<br>
> attached to an XO?<br>
> >> At our XS Community Sprint
this week outside<br>
> Toronto, we've been<br>
> >> unable to boot XOs with
the 700+ GB drive(s)<br>
> containing very<br>
> >> polished open content
provided by <a href="http://internet-in-a-box.org" target="_blank">http://internet-in-a-box.org</a><br>
> >> The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc)
refuse to auto-boot, leaving<br>
> the screen at<br>
> >> the OK prompt.<br>
> >><br>
> >> FYI our 1TB disk is a
nearly complete snapshot of:<br>
> >> *
Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails
for most<br>
> all images<br>
> >> * OpenStreetMap for the
whole world cached at all<br>
> zoom levels for<br>
> >> fast display<br>
> >> * Gutenberg Prjct's full
collection of 40,000+<br>
> books, images<br>
> >> * Khan Academy's ~4000
video classes, etc<br>
> >><br>
> >> Does firmware currently
block the mounting of all<br>
> large USB drives<br>
> >> -- NTFS in this case if
not other filesystems?<br>
> > Open Firmware tries the first
partition that is marked<br>
> bootable.<br>
> ><br>
> > Exactly what it does next
depends on the firmware<br>
> version, but clearly<br>
> > in your case it stops booting.<br>
> ><br>
> >> Might there be a
workaround so isolated XO servers<br>
> in Haiti (etc!)<br>
> >> can hopefully auto-boot
with this quality free<br>
> content?<br>
> > Turn off the bootable flag
using a partitioning<br>
> program, ensure you<br>
> > are using latest firmware
Q7B30, and attach a serial<br>
> console for<br>
> > further debugging.<br>
> ><br>
> > If you can tell me how to
reproduce the symptom, then<br>
> I'm quite sure I<br>
> > can get it fixed. I certainly
can't afford to<br>
> download 700 GB or 1 TB<br>
> > to do that though.<br>
> ><br>
> > I'm happy to work with whoever
has the drive and an<br>
> XO-4.<br>
> ><br>
> > The nature and value of the
content has no relationship<br>
> to the<br>
> > diagnosis process, but is
interesting regardless.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
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