[support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
Holt
holt at laptop.org
Mon May 13 10:58:51 EDT 2013
On 5/13/2013 10:45 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> Why? Can't be in a script?
We can't run a script if we cannot boot =)
(Due to firmware incompatibility w/ NTFS USB drives, forcing us to the
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok prompt, preventing auto-boot)
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Holt <holt at laptop.org
> <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
>
> Indeed...but this is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to
> auto-boot after "daily" power failures in the developing world :)
>
>
> On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:
>> NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just not by the OS Kernel itself.
>>
>> The ntfs-3g "filesystem in userspace" package can be used to
>> mount NTFS drives. So you should be able to use a command like
>> "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint" if Sugar
>> or GNOME do not automatically mount the filesystem for you.
>>
>> In general many Linux distributions seem to currently consider
>> using ntfs-3g a better approach than using the kernel driver.
>> The in-kernel driver still may not have full NTFS write support,
>> while ntfs-3g does.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis
>> <mavrothal at yahoo.com <mailto:mavrothal at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>> OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set).
>> It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS.
>> I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and is
>> universal.
>> However it has a number of other problems that may not suit
>> your needs (reliability, permissions etc)
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock <braddock at braddock.com
>> <mailto:braddock at braddock.com>> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Braddock <braddock at braddock.com
>> <mailto:braddock at braddock.com>>
>> > Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of
>> quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
>> > To: "James Cameron" <quozl at laptop.org
>> <mailto:quozl at laptop.org>>, "Holt" <holt at laptop.org
>> <mailto:holt at laptop.org>>, "XS Devel"
>> <server-devel at lists.laptop.org
>> <mailto:server-devel at lists.laptop.org>>, "Support Gangsters"
>> <support-gang at laptop.org <mailto:support-gang at laptop.org>>,
>> "Devel's in the Details" <devel at lists.laptop.org
>> <mailto:devel at lists.laptop.org>>
>> > Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM
>> > Hi James
>> > I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC Firmware 0.4.03
>> >
>> > I have tried turning the "boot" flag off on the NTFS
>> > partition, but it
>> > still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt.
>> >
>> > I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to
>> > NTFS and trying
>> > to boot with it plugged in.
>> >
>> > So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB
>> > media.
>> >
>> > -braddock
>> >
>> > On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote:
>> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote:
>> > >> Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive
>> > attached to an XO?
>> > >> At our XS Community Sprint this week outside
>> > Toronto, we've been
>> > >> unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s)
>> > containing very
>> > >> polished open content provided by
>> http://internet-in-a-box.org
>> > >> The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving
>> > the screen at
>> > >> the OK prompt.
>> > >>
>> > >> FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of:
>> > >> * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most
>> > all images
>> > >> * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all
>> > zoom levels for
>> > >> fast display
>> > >> * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+
>> > books, images
>> > >> * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc
>> > >>
>> > >> Does firmware currently block the mounting of all
>> > large USB drives
>> > >> -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems?
>> > > Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked
>> > bootable.
>> > >
>> > > Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware
>> > version, but clearly
>> > > in your case it stops booting.
>> > >
>> > >> Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers
>> > in Haiti (etc!)
>> > >> can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free
>> > content?
>> > > Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning
>> > program, ensure you
>> > > are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial
>> > console for
>> > > further debugging.
>> > >
>> > > If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then
>> > I'm quite sure I
>> > > can get it fixed. I certainly can't afford to
>> > download 700 GB or 1 TB
>> > > to do that though.
>> > >
>> > > I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an
>> > XO-4.
>> > >
>> > > The nature and value of the content has no relationship
>> > to the
>> > > diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless.
>> > >
>> >
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