csound vs olpcsound

[Peter Robinson]

Hi Victor,

Thanks for the update, its very useful. I'll have a look at it next
week. Where can I find the 5.07 spec you mention. I'll have a look at
getting it up to 5.08 as a starter and see if I can't push the Tcl/Tk
plugins into a subpackage but according to this sugarlabs page the
0.84 release will work with either 5.08 and 5.10. It would require a
rebuild for the associated apps though.

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Sugar_Platform/0.84

Cheers,
Pete

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:35 AM,  <Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie> wrote:
> Basically all the Tcl/Tk stuff, some spectral processing
> plugin opcodes and other more heavy-processing plugins,
> portmidi and portaudio-based IO modules,
> the ALSA-based IO is made to be the default IO module.
> However, if  the spec file for Csound 5.07 is used as a basis for
> an updated csound package, I think
> it's possible to make a csound5 package very lean, as many
> dependencies are moved to individual rpms, which can be
> left out of the installation (so olpcsound becomes almost
> obsolete).
> That way fedora can have a fully update full csound 5 package,
> and sugar can use only the rpms that it requires.
> The only slight complication, if we are moving to 5.10 (latest) is
> that the csound library had a SONAME bump (5.2 now). I am not
> sure how that will affect packages. The last 'stable' version of
> libcsound5.1 was released in 5.08. So it might be worth building
> a csound5.08 set of rpms, based on csound5.07 spec and then
> doing a csound5.10 later, as an upgrade. If sugar adopts 5.10,
> applications (ie TAMTAM) will need to be re-built and linked
> against it.
> If a move away from olpcsound is required, I would suggest taking
> the spec of 5.07, which, to me, seems the most correct. If we
> are upgrading olpcsound to 5.10, then we need to rebuild all
> packages that depend on it before shipping.
> In any case, please feel free to ask any questions and seek any
> help you need from me (not sure you know, but I am also one
> of upstream developers, so I might be able to help with integrating
> patches to future releases, etc.)
> Regards
> Victor
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:17 am
> Subject: Re: csound vs olpcsound
> To: Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie
> Cc: OLPC Developer's List <devel at lists.laptop.org>
>
>> Hi Victor,
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I was aware that csound in Fedora
>> is 5.03. My query was based on getting Fedora up to the latest version
>> (so if we needed olpcsound if fedora had >= 5.08). I'm going to follow
>> this up to see where I can get. As a side note, do you know what the
>> removed deps were?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:14 AM,
>> <Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie> wrote:
>> > Very strange, but olpcsound is based on csound 5.08. As far as
>> I know there
>> > is no
>> > fedora package for csound 5.08 or 5.10. If there is, it should
>> be no
>> > problem moving from olpcsound to csound. I would not like to
>> > move from olpcsound to csound 5.03, though.
>> > olpcsound is not a fork, it is based on the same sources as
>> Csound5, with
>> > less components and dependencies. It is just a build option
>> (for scons).
>> >
>> > Victor
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:12 am
>> > Subject: csound vs olpcsound
>> > To: OLPC Developer's List <devel at lists.laptop.org>
>> >
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> I know that olpcsound was originally a fork of csound for
>> olpc. I
>> >> noticed just now on the sugarlabs page for the 0.84 release
>> [1] that
>> >> it depends on csound 5.08/5.10 and makes no mention of
>> >> olpcsound. Does
>> >> that mean that olpcsound is now obsolete and that once we get
>> csound>> in Fedora upgraded to a remotely recent version that
>> olpcsound can
>> >> just disappear?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Peter
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Sugar_Platform/0.84>>
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>> > Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,National
>> University of
>> > Ireland, Maynooth
>> >
>> >
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,National University of
> Ireland, Maynooth
>
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