"Yay!, Bee, See" (ABC) software

Wade Brainerd wadetb at gmail.com
Sun Jan 4 22:28:37 EST 2009


BTW, this activity is a perfect example of what I was talking about with my
'web-activity' and sugar.activity.activity.WebActivity class proposals.  You
want a way to install it to the home screen, give it an icon, and have it
launch seamlessly just like any other activity.

As it is, I spent some time last month and ported Yay! Bee See to PyGTK so
it would behave as a normal activity, but if we had the system I described
in Sugar already, I wouldn't have done so.

My link is http://dev.laptop.org/~wadeb/Yay!BeeSee-2.xo

Best,
Wade

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler <bsittler at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've been playing around with this a bit, and I still can't figure out
> the xol files. When I download
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/images/2/28/Yay-Bee-See-9.xol
>
> In Browse, it does get saved to the Journal, and when I start the xol
> file from the Journal it launches Browse with the main HTML file from
> the collection, and a subsequently launched "vanilla" Browse includes
> "yay-bee-see" in the "images" section of the Library.
>
> However, even after I "keep" both the .xol file and the Browse
> session, rebooting the machine causes yay-bee-see to disappear from
> the images section of the Library (and the kept Browse session to show
> a "File Not Found" message) until I open the .xol file again. Is this
> intended/expected behavior?
>
> Is there some way to keep user-installed Library Collections installed
> across reboots?
>
> Thanks,
> -Ben
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, that's a fine baseline.   As you point out, I had a hard time
> > with the license field; enter what you like but please do include a
> > full LICENSE file in the bundle that provides specific licenses (and
> > attribution where required), image by image.
> >
> > If you download an xol file onto your xo from a webserver that has
> > mimetypes set properly (such as w.l.o) it should automatically install
> > itself into your Library/ directory.
> >
> > I don't know about that page not rendering properly on an XO; what
> > version of Browse are you running?
> >
> > SJ
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler <bsittler at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> A few questions, though:
> >>
> >> 1. Is there any reason I shouldn't start with your version 2 .xol as
> >> my baseline? I'd like to update it to use the new lower-resolution,
> >> lower-quality images (which still look just fine on the XO-1 even in
> >> greyscale high-resolution mode zoomed out to the 1px = 1px scale.)
> >>
> >> 2. Is there some way to install the .xol more user-friendly than just
> >> unzipping it into the ~/Library directory?
> >>
> >> 3. I notice that in the description on the wiki for the bundle you
> >> wrote "fdl text, pd, cc-by and cc-sa images". Some of the images are
> >> cc-by-sa and fdl, too. Also, the HTML text is actually pd (or at least
> >> it was in the version I released — of course you are welcome to
> >> license copyrighted derivative versions however you like.)
> >>
> >> 4. And finally, is there some reason the OLPC wiki does not work right
> >> when viewed from an XO-1? I had to go through URL-hacking contortions
> >> to open that page in Browse (it just said the page was empty
> >> otherwise.)
> >>
> >> Thanks, (and please pardon my ignorance!)
> >> -Ben
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>  Ben --
> >>>
> >>> When you're zipping up the directory, if you add a metadata file in
> >>> this subpath:
> >>>  library/library.info
> >>>
> >>> and give the resulting zip file the extension .xol, you'll have an XO
> >>> library bundle.
> >>>
> >>> Here is a sample info file, with all required fields :
> >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Yay-bee-see-library.info
> >>> Note that the 'name' field in the info file should match the name of
> >>> the root directory.
> >>>
> >>> Our standard is to increment the version # in the metadata every time
> >>> you make a change; that allows tools like Sugar's software updater
> >>> know when there are newer versions of packages available to install.
> >>>
> >>> SJ
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler <bsittler at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> yeah, i added a 1200x900 version with more agressive JPEG compression
> >>>> which looks good both in color mode and in monochrome mode and is only
> >>>> 4 MiB or so:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://xent.com/~bsittler/yay-bee-see-olpc.zip<http://xent.com/%7Ebsittler/yay-bee-see-olpc.zip>
> >>>>
> >>>> hosted version:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://xent.com/~bsittler/yay-bee-see-olpc/index.html<http://xent.com/%7Ebsittler/yay-bee-see-olpc/index.html>
> >>>>
> >>>> does that seem any faster?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> On 24 Nov 2008, at 17:21, Ben Wiley Sittler wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have just joined this list and read through the archives, but
> could
> >>>>>> not find anything similar. I also didn't find mention of anything
> >>>>>> similar on the OLPC Wiki.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I recently wrote some software for use by my daughter on her OLPC.
> It
> >>>>>> runs inside the Browse activity, either locally using a "file:" URI
> or
> >>>>>> over the network. I don't know whether it will be of interest to
> >>>>>> anyone else, but I have released the software to the public domain
> and
> >>>>>> packaged it along with scaled-down (1600x1200 or less) copies of
> some
> >>>>>> public-domain images and some copyrighted-but-free-to-redistribute
> >>>>>> images under GFDL, and various Creative Commons Attribution-Share
> >>>>>> Alike, Attribution, and Share Alike licenses. Individual attribution
> >>>>>> for each image is included in the application source code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Seems a great addition for the younger age range :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did notice that even on a high specced laptop (1.5Ghz, 2Gb ram,
> broadband
> >>>>> connection) the background image was very slow to display (until it
> had been
> >>>>> cached locally).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One suggestion, 1600x1200 seems a bit large (even as a max size). For
> the
> >>>>> XO, 800x600 (max!) would seem to be a fair max image size to save
> nand space
> >>>>> and keep image quality. The XO screen is capable of 1200x900 in
> black/white,
> >>>>> and 800x600 seems a reasonable number for it's colour resolution
> abilities:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --Gary
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> overview:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wrote some software using DHTML (JavaScript, HTML and CSS.) It's
> to
> >>>>>> help learn letters and numbers, and is intended to be used with
> adult
> >>>>>> supervision and involvement. It is fairly easy to customize it to
> use
> >>>>>> different images and support different alphabets simply by editing
> the
> >>>>>> contents of the <style> element in the HTML file.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The software is very, very, very simple — it just echoes typed
> letters
> >>>>>> and numbers in a large, colorful font and shows a somewhat-relevant
> >>>>>> background image for each one. The images are various freely-usable
> >>>>>> ones I found on Wikipedia or in the Wikimedia Commons. View source
> >>>>>> code for full copyright information for the associated images.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> online version of the "Yay!, Bee, See" application:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://xent.com/~bsittler/yay-bee-see.html<http://xent.com/%7Ebsittler/yay-bee-see.html>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> an archive of the application (ZIP, ~15 MiB) including all images:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://xent.com/~bsittler/yay-bee-see.zip<http://xent.com/%7Ebsittler/yay-bee-see.zip>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> blog post about it:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://bsittler.livejournal.com/15244.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> background:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My daughter (who turns two this week) has been enjoying her OLPC
> from
> >>>>>> last year's G1G1 program much more than I expected she would
> >>>>>> (originally I intended to wait until she was older and literate to
> >>>>>> introduce her to the OLPC, but she seemed to treat it as a favorite
> >>>>>> toy starting around the age of 18 months.) She likes the Record
> >>>>>> activity (she calls it "Waving hand" and uses it like a mirror-image
> >>>>>> mirror,) Skype (not bundled, but she uses it to talk to and see
> >>>>>> far-away family,) and listening to music (theclassicalstation.org).
> >>>>>> She also likes pressing buttons, rotating the "ears" and screen, and
> >>>>>> opening and closing the laptop. However, she seems somewhat
> frustrated
> >>>>>> by not being able to do things on it for herself (or as she puts it,
> >>>>>> "do it self!",) so I thought I might write a small program where her
> >>>>>> keypresses give some feedback, and help reinforce her interest in
> the
> >>>>>> digits and letters of the alphabet (she loves being read to and
> >>>>>> recognizes many letters and digits, but does not seem to understand
> >>>>>> reading yet.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Ben
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