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[david at lang.hm]

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, NoiseEHC wrote:

>
>> 2009/12/29 NoiseEHC <NoiseEHC at freemail.hu>:
>> 
>>> me. Another (optional) question is why did you left out gdb from the list?
>>> 
>> 
>> All sorts of things run on the 3/4 xterms i use. valgrind, gdb,
>> python -m pdb, tail -f /path/to/log, ipython, ps_mem.py, psql, git
>> commands...
>> 
>
> And if all those tools would be integrated into an IDE then it would be bad 
> is not it? Or do you think that it is impossible to do?

to do this you would have to declare one specific variation of these tools 
as the 'One True Way' and eliminate all the others.

the advantage of a loosly coupled IDE is that one component can be 
replaced by something else without having to change/loose all the other 
things.

David Lang

>>> All your code is perfect because you are a top-quality programmer who do 
>>> not
>>> make mistakes because of emacs or what?
>>> 
>> 
>> You seem to be reading things that I do not write. My code is not
>> perfect. I debug plenty with various mechanisms. There is no problem
>> here.
>>
>> 
>
> Okay, next time I will write <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags.
>
>>> like the endless suffering I had to
>>> enjoy while fixing some kernel bugs. What I am saying is that I *do not
>>> want* to develop without IDEs.
>>> 
>> 
>> Ok, then that is *your personal preference*. Not The End of the World,
>> not the Betrayal Of The Children.
>> 
>
> See, finally we are on the same page.
> First, it can be the personal preferences of a lot of people but because you 
> have excluded them you will never know. (And simply *that is my point*!!!).
> Second, the "End of the World, Betrayal Of The Children" (I like this 
> wording) argument was yours in that <sarcasm> Android kills children by not 
> allowing to develop core applications on the XO </sarcasm> thread. (BTW it 
> was not yours personally, the *plural you* was intended here.)
>
>
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