Bundle activity

Erik Garrison erik at laptop.org
Thu Sep 11 16:40:22 EDT 2008


Firstly, insofar as the hierarchical filesystem is a worldwide standard
for human-computer interface, it is something which is useful to teach
students.  So it seems like a very useful activity.

Secondly, from a utility perspective... Have you ever tried to move a
file out of the Journal and onto a USB flash drive?  Then change the
name...  Or maybe put such a file into a specific directory on the flash
drive?

If we don't want the journal to behave this way then perhaps the best
place to put the functionality is in another activity.  Bundle seems to
have sensible overlap with this problem space.

When I was in Uruguay more teachers asked me about issues with the
Journal than anything else.  I keep poking on this issue to remind
people that it's not going away in the field.

Erik

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:17:39PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> IIUC the activity would not deal with files but with journal entries.  
> So you can copy several journal entries into a zipped entry, and you  
> can unzip entries from a zipped one. This has nothing to do with files  
> in the home directory (besides, a regular activity cannot write to  
> home, and read only some of it).
> 
> - Bert -
> 
> Am 11.09.2008 um 22:12 schrieb Erik Garrison:
> 
> > "Bundles" are files.  In this case they are compressed files.  I'm  
> > just
> > pointing out that if we're going to work with files of this kind we
> > should think about working with files of the non-compressed kind.
> >
> > The overlap between the Bundle tool and a tool to allow the same
> > operations on uncompressed files is pretty large.  Note that bundle
> > management is usually dealt with in other desktop environments through
> > the file browser.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 03:57:12PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> >> That's not within the scope of this activity, no.  This activity is
> >> strictly about viewing and creating bundles.
> >>
> >> - Eben
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Erik Garrison <erik at laptop.org>  
> >> wrote:
> >>> Matt,
> >>>
> >>> Would this activity be modified easily to take files from within the
> >>> Journal and move them back into the user's /home/, either  
> >>> compressed or
> >>> uncompressed?  Call it the File activity.
> >>>
> >>> Erik
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:49:03AM -0400, Matt Der wrote:
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am one of the students who will be working on the Bundle activity
> >>>> suggested by Eben Eliason.  I understand that the activity should  
> >>>> be
> >>>> designed to manage a variety of archive formats (zip, tar, gz,  
> >>>> etc.), and it
> >>>> should support both the extraction of files from an archive into  
> >>>> the Journal
> >>>> as well as linking a set of entries from the Journal into a  
> >>>> bundle.  Also, I
> >>>> see a few additional details are provided in its wiki [
> >>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bundle_(activity)].
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this an active project right now?  If not, our team would like  
> >>>> to start
> >>>> working on it soon, but first we are looking for feedback on  
> >>>> functionality,
> >>>> how it should integrate with the Journal, UI particulars, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> If this project is not currently active, we are eager to hear any  
> >>>> helpful
> >>>> input you might have.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Matt
> >>>
> 
> 
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