Bobby Powers bobbypowers at
Mon Nov 10 00:51:45 EST 2008

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at> wrote:
> Daniel writes:
>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at> wrote:
>>> genesee writes:
>>>> NetworkManager-0.7 and/or NetworkManager-glib killed my Neigborhood view.
>>> Same problem here.
>> We're mid-way through the upgrade to sugar-0.83. And even when that's
>> done, there will be mucho breakage (see Tomeu's earlier post).
>> I think joyride will break often over the course of the next few
>> months as development runs in full swing.
>> Thanks for letting us know anyway.
> --------
> I sent in my post to celebrate a milestone -- something *worked*
> (suspend/resume with a wired ethernet) that had not previously.
> To then quote a non-positive comment was to mis-read my post.
> --------
> "... joyride will break often over the ... next few months ..."

To imply Dan was saying this in a non-positive way is also to misread
his post.  I think you're jumping the gun here.


> I appear to be having difficulties communicating with this list.
> When I ask for advice - it is sparse;  when I don't ask - it is
> offered.  I'm not sure of the purpose of the above sentence - am I
> being advised to leave joyride to "development"?
> My original post was merely to describe what I saw.  But now I *am*
> asking for advice - is
> not enough for me to figure out how come some things are being shown
> in Neighborhood View but others are not.  Please - those of you who
> have practical experience with NM-0.7 - I would appreciate pointers
> to more information on how to _use_ NM-0.7 (in place of NM-0.6).
> Yes, I expect things to break "as development runs in full swing".
> But I think both developers and users will make faster progress if
> hurdles are met with a "here, this might help" attitude.
> mikus
> p.s.  The two principal "helpful hints" I've been using so far with
> NM-0.7 is "if I don't like the IP address it assigns (e.g., an
> IPv6), I manually do 'ifconfig down', then 'ifconfig up' with the
> desired address (e.g., an IPv4)";  and "if I don't like the wireless
> characteristics it assigns (e.g., the channel), I manually do
> 'iwconfig' to set the desired value for that characteristic".
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