Cmap tools (with image customization cross over)

Tue Dec 23 18:16:47 EST 2008

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Greg Smith wrote:

> Hi Bert,
>
> That strategy sounds good to me if its easy. You still need a custom
> "image" because the end result should be something which can be quickly
> installed on 10K or more XOs via:
> - USB
> - olpc-update over WAN or from XS
> - NAND Blaster
>
> That said, making it an activity would make it easy to use the existing
> customization key.
>
> How hard is it to do what you suggest? Would you be interested in making
> a "Cmap running inside X window activity" .xo bundle?

would this end up duplicating the 'X window activity' into each similar 
application?

David Lang

> I think that would simplify the discussion with them and clarify how it
> might work.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg S
>
> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> The better approach would be to install everything into the bundle
>> directory itself. Then simply zip it and you should have a working xo
>> bundle. A custom build should not be necessary for this.
>>
>> - Bert -
>>
>> On 23.12.2008, at 21:35, Greg Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bert,
>>>
>>> Thanks. It was actually right click for me but that did it.
>>>
>>> I installed the Cmap tools from within the X activity and it mostly
>>> worked.
>>>
>>> A few oddities in the X activity like the arrow keys not working but
>>> nothing fatal.
>>>
>>> I'll follow up with the Cmap people and see if they can move it ahead
>>> some more.
>>>
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> Here's a good use case for the "image customization" feature. To
>>> install Cmap, I open the X activity, downloaded a zip, then unpacked
>>> it which created a bin file. I made that executable and ran it which
>>> launched an installer which installed Java and some other stuff into a
>>> directory I chose (data). I also assume they would want to tweak the X
>>> activity initrc file to make it launch Cmap automatically. The whole
>>> thing is within a Rainbow instance but I believe its re-usable if its
>>> in the data directory.
>>>
>>> Would your customization stick strategy allow me to make this whole
>>> thing part of an image installable on many XOs as described?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Greg S
>>>
>>> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>> Click to bring up a menu and open a terminal.
>>>> Alternatively, edit the ".xinitrc" file to auto-launch any X
>>>> applications you want started ("xterm &" is a common choice) before
>>>> executing the window manager. This is also how you would bundle and
>>>> launch a regular X app like cmap.
>>>> - Bert -
>>>> On 23.12.2008, at 16:34, Greg Smith wrote:
>>>>> Hi Michael and Bert,
>>>>>
>>>>> It got quiet enough that I had a chance to try this myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried installing and running the X activity and I tried following
>>>>> the instructions here:
>>>>> http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2007/12/run_a_nested_x11_desktop_on_th.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In both cases I got a gray screen with a "bar" showing "Workspace"
>>>>> with two triangles next to it (left and right facing) on the left
>>>>> side of the bar and the time with the same triangles on the right side.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't see my pointer in the Hackfest version but I did in the X
>>>>> window version. In both cases I didn't see any place to enter text
>>>>> (e.g. a window). Am I missing something?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was hoping to get an X window with a prompt so I could install
>>>>> CMap tools from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg S
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Smith wrote:
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> Picking up this old thread
>>>>>> (http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/018835.html)
>>>>>> I want to move this forward again.
>>>>>> There is a beta version of a smaller Linux implementation of CMap
>>>>>> tools now. Download it from here:
>>>>>> http://cmap.ihmc.us/download/cmaplite.php
>>>>>> Does anyone have time to try running this inside of the X windows
>>>>>> activity mentioned below?
>>>>>> While we have some traction on other concept map tools (thanks
>>>>>> Tomeu for Labrynth), CMap is "incumbent" in a number of countries
>>>>>> and I want to figure out how close we are to supporting it. It will
>>>>>> affect our ability to get XOs and Sugar in to more schools systems
>>>>>> so its certainly valuable work.
>>>>>> Let me know if anyone has a chance to try this out and document
>>>>>> what it will take to make it work.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Greg S
>>>>>> *************
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at
>>>>>> freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 04.09.2008 um 01:06 schrieb Michael Stone:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried making the activity which is X-windows and inside
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> other activities can run?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] and [2] seem apropos.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7768#comment:8
>>>>>>>> [2]:
>>>>>> http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2007/12/run_a_nested_x11_desktop_on_th.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I couldn't resist making an activity for that:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/X
>>>>>> Anybody has any idea about how to make xephyr use the clipboard of the
>>>>>> external X server? DND may be even harder.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Tomeu
>>
>>
>>
>>
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