[sugar] Sugar Digest, Vol 22, Issue 35

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 12:33:01 EDT 2008


All that is needed to convert your manuals, which seem to be HTML,
into a form suitable for the laptops is to create a library bundle.
The instructions can be found in the wiki here:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Content_bundles

regards.

-walter

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Horváth-Militicsi Attila
<6hunyadi at eunet.yu> wrote:
> Dear Walter
>
>  Could you tell me please, at which stage is the implementation of my manuals
>  of professional French into your laptops ? I am now working to finish as
>  soon as possible the third of one from the 4 planned.
>  Amically yours
>  Attila Horvath-Militicsi from Novi Sad, Serbia
>  email: 6hunyadi at eunet.yu  website: http://www.6hunyadi-fle.org/HMA
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>  >   1. Re: [Localization]  code comments? (Edward Cherlin)
>  >   2. Sugar mtg April 08 2008 (Simon Schampijer)
>  >   3. xulrunner beta5 in sugar-jhbuild (Simon Schampijer)
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>  > Message: 1
>  > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 01:56:15 -0700
>  > From: "Edward Cherlin" <echerlin at gmail.com>
>  > Subject: Re: [sugar] [Localization]  code comments?
>  > To: "Walter Bender" <walter at laptop.org>
>  > Cc: Sugar Mailing List <sugar at lists.laptop.org>, Localization mailing
>  > list <localization at lists.laptop.org>
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>  > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Walter Bender <walter at laptop.org> wrote:
>  >> It may become an important feature over time, such as when we have
>  >>  Quechua support and want to fall back to Spanish before falling back
>  >>  to English, but I wouldn't think it is a priority in any of our
>  >>  current deployments.
>  >
>  > Current target countries
>  >
>  > Haiti: Krey?l/French/English
>  > Rwanda: Kinyarwanda/English/French
>  > Cambodia: Khmer/French/English
>  > Afghanistan: Dari/Pashto/English, Pashto/Dari/Russian/English,
>  > Pashto/Urdu/English, Dari/Tajik/English, Hazara/Dari/English...
>  > Mongolia: Mongolian/Russian/English or Mongolian/English/Russian.
>  > Later on a choice between Mongolian (Cyrillic) and Mongolian
>  > (Traditional) will complicate matters further.
>  > US: English/Spanish, English/French, English/Chinese, English/Italian,
>  > English/Korean, English/Vietnamese,...
>  >
>  > Other possibilities
>  >
>  > Nigeria: any combination of Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, English and others
>  > Brazil: Portuguese (Brazil)/Portuguese/English/Spanish, among other
>  > possibilities
>  > India: Any combination of more than 20 official languages, plus other
>  > world languages
>  >
>  > Me:
>  > English/French/German/Russian/Spanish/Yiddish/Japanese/Chinese/Korean/Swahili
>  >
>  > You can't decide for your users what they want. It is best to let them
>  > choose. I don't say that you have to allow 10 choices, as in my
>  > example, but four or five is quite common. My grandfather spoke
>  > Polish, Russian, Lithuanian, Yiddish, and later in life English, and
>  > knew a fair amount of Hebrew and some Aramaic. They do say that the
>  > correct English word for a person who speaks multiple languages is
>  > "polyglot", and the correct English word for a person who speaks only
>  > one language is "American".
>  >
>  >>  -walter
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net>
>  >> wrote:
>  >>  > Very interesting, I guess we should integrate it in the language
>  >>  >  section of the control panel. AFAIK, this is not being considered
>  >> yet.
>  >>  >
>  >>  >  If we don't want to add more complexity to the control panel UI, we
>  >>  >  may assign under the hoods a fallback language to every language?
>  >
>  > No. Too many possibilities, not enough information.
>  >
>  >>  >  Perhaps someone from deployment could comment on the better milestone
>  >>  >  to target this?
>  >>  >
>  >>  >  Tomeu
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  >  On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Bert Freudenberg
>  >> <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>  >>  >  > Interesting, thanks. Are there any plans to make use of this
>  >> feature
>  >>  >  >  in deployments?
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >  - Bert -
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >  On 05.04.2008, at 12:05, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>  >>  >  >  > Yes, by setting LANGUAGE env variable with a fall back language,
>  >>  >  >  > some thing
>  >>  >  >  > like "LANGUAGE=ur_PK:fa_IR:ar", you can specify multiple fall
>  >> back
>  >>  >  >  > languages.
>  >>  >  >  >
>  >>  >  >  > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 09:31:30AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg
>  >> wrote:
>  >>  >  >  >> ... which reminds me: Is it possible in gettext to fall back on
>  >> a
>  >>  >  >  >> language other than English when a translation for some phrase
>  >> cannot
>  >>  >  >  >> be found? That would be a useful feature I think, as long as
>  >> there
>  >>  >  >  >> are
>  >>  >  >  >> programs that are not fully translated (which will happen very
>  >>  >  >  >> often).
>  >>  >  >  >>
>  >>  >  >  >> - Bert -
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >
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>  > ------------------------------
>  >
>  > Message: 2
>  > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:18:25 +0200
>  > From: Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
>  > Subject: [sugar] Sugar mtg April 08 2008
>  > To: Sugar List <sugar at laptop.org>
>  > Message-ID: <47FB5481.8000605 at schampijer.de>
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>  >
>  > In today's meeting we will review eben's sugar todo list:
>  >
>  > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-April/004909.html
>  >
>  > and discuss some parts like the 'AlertBox' in detail.
>  >
>  > See you,
>  >    Simon
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ------------------------------
>  >
>  > Message: 3
>  > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:06:53 +0200
>  > From: Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
>  > Subject: [sugar] xulrunner beta5 in sugar-jhbuild
>  > To: Sugar List <sugar at laptop.org>
>  > Message-ID: <47FB5FDD.6070302 at schampijer.de>
>  > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > I have updated sugar-jhbuild to use the xulrunner beta 5 sources
>  > http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/04/02/firefox-3-beta-5-now-available-for-download/
>  >
>  > It passed the buildbot test as well:
>  > http://iorich.caltech.edu:8014/A/builds/203
>  >
>  > Enjoy,
>  >    Simon
>  >
>  >
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