[Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: ds-backup

Sameer Verma sverma at sfsu.edu
Wed Apr 17 16:33:43 EDT 2013


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:47 AM, David Farning <dfarning at activitycentral.com
> wrote:

> This brings up the interesting issue of basing the XS-CE on a long
> term release. I have trying to sit on my hands for these discussion to
> see how they play out.
>
> I am pulled between two sides....
>
> Stability -- Servers need to be inherently stable. Especially when we
> work at the scale that exists in large deployment. This seems to
> implies that something like CentOS would be the preferred OS. The
> added benefit is that we don't expend too many of our limited
> resources chasing upstream.
>
> New Hardware -- The other side of the coin is the desire to run on new
> hardware such as the XO4 or RaspberryPI. One of the ways long term
> releases achieve stability is letting new ideas and new drivers 'bake'
> in frequent release OS's like fedora.
>
> I wish I had a good answer to this.
>
> Dave
>
>
We are sorta married to Fedora, because of the Sugar dependency, but if I
had a choice to run a server, I'd run it on Debian. In fact, I have run
servers with incredible stability on Debian and Ubuntu. Services x86 and
ARM and should work for most of what we want to do. Most RPi distros run on
Debian.

Probably won't work for running Sugar UI and activities, but yes, the
Fedora dependency is a problem that no one wants to talk about :-(

Sameer


>  On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:00 AM, George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Your analysis conforms with my experience. When I tried to carry
> mod_python
> > over into FC18, it conflicted with apache. I didn't spend much time
> thinking
> > about carrying apache along.
> >
> > I'm sort of looking forward to debugging my new version of ds-backup
> server,
> > which uses mod_wsgi. It seems like a relatively localized change.
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Daniel Drake <dsd at laptop.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:16 PM, George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > Hi Daniel,
> >> >
> >> > I noticed that you were working on ds-backup recently.  I was trying
> to
> >> > get
> >> > XSCE running on fc18, and encountered the issue of fedora dropping
> >> > mod-python (see https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5165).
> >> >
> >> > Is it ok to just carry the fc17 version along in our repo, and try to
> >> > see if
> >> > it just works, or should we set a goal of rewriting to mod_wsgi?
> >>
> >> Carrying along an old mod_python might be tricky, I think F18 has a
> >> new apache version with some incompatibilities.
> >>
> >> I would port it to wsgi.
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >
> >
>
>
>
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