[Server-devel] Testing EduBlog

Tarun Pondicherry tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 22:21:18 EDT 2008


Hi Pablo,

I removed email validation from the registration page, so you will be 
immediately confirmed after registering with no need for email.

The second change to blog permissions is too much for me to finish by 
tomorrow =(.  Can we have the teachers register first, then give them 
teacher permissions and then have the students register and use the 
system?  I'll keep working on it and see how far I can get, but I am 
doubtful I can do it in time.

Thanks,
Tarun
>
>
>     How do you envision the ideal process for user registration for
>     our test?  (I think when fully completed and installed on the XS,
>     Moodle will authenticate based on the MAC address of the XO)
>
> How about this:
> Evreyone can create a blog. The one who creates a blog is the one who 
> administers it. Then, just let users get registered, and somehow 
> suscribe to the blog. If the teacher doesn't reject the user, then she 
> can post to the blog.
>
> This process has the advantage of being extremely simple, which is 
> very important for most teachers. You find it viable?
>
>  
>
>
>         The other question is: How will children create their own
>         account if it needs an administrator approval? It might become
>         a bit impractical... Maybe it's better not needing the
>         approval, and if there is some trouble, the admin can delete
>         unwanted users, what you think?
>
>     Moodle gives us several authentication options.  I will try to
>     implement what you are suggesting as an auth module.  Students can
>     just register without any confirmation.  Also, email based
>     registration won't work because as far as I know, the XS does not
>     have an email service.
>
> That's right (at least, at the moment).
> I think in the future the best will be developing some kind of 
> middleware to let users authenticate with other accounts (it's not 
> good giving many different user/password  for all children).
>
> Regards,
> Pablo
>
>
>
>     Thanks,
>     Tarun
>
>         On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Tarun Pondicherry
>         <tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>            Hi Pablo,
>
>            I realized that the links on the homepage were pointing to
>         the old
>            pages.  I updates the links at wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog
>         <http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog>
>            <http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog>.  Please let me know if
>         that
>
>            resolves the first issue you mentioned.
>
>
>            Thanks,
>            Tarun
>
>            Pablo Flores wrote:
>
>                Hi Tarun.
>
>                I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they
>                should when working in an XO.
>
>                I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new
>         homepage,
>                that is ok. When I go to the "Create new blog" link
>              
>          (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0
>         <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0>
>              
>          <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0
>         <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0>>
>              
>          <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0
>         <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0>
>              
>          <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0
>         <http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=3&section=0&return=0>>>),
>                it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good.
>
>
>                Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes
>         me to
>                an error message that says: "This course doesn't
>         exist", and a
>                "Continue" button. When I press it, it goes back to the
>         home
>                page. The same happens if I login with the user
>         teacheres. If
>                then I go again to the "Create new blog" link, I can
>         see the
>                courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course,
>                there is no link or option for this.
>
>                Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I
>         could
>                fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the
>                confirmation email, so I can't finish the process.
>
>                Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the "logout"
>         option
>                never appears in the top-right of the page.
>
>                I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is
>                not working from the XO...
>
>                Saludos,
>                Pablo Flores
>
>
>                On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry
>                <tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
>                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>
>                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
>                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>
>                   Hi Pablo,
>
>                   The version downloadable from:
>                   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the
>                heading
>                   "For Those with Build 656" has the new homepage.
>          Please let me
>                   know if it works.
>
>                   About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the
>         pages it
>                   should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish
>                   localization).  If that does not work, then I will
>         force the
>                   setting to spanish and not try to detect the
>         localization.
>
>                   About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real
>         school each
>                   teachers and students have their own account.  Then,
>         they
>                can do
>                   concurrent things without issues.  My concern is
>         that for
>                the test
>                   it looks like we are going to use the same user
>         account for
>                   everyone which can cause problems.  If we can create
>                separate user
>                   accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that
>                would be
>                   ideal.
>
>                   Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out.
>
>                   Tarun
>
>                       Hi Tarun!
>                       Thanks for the great work you are doing!
>
>                       See comments below.
>
>                       Saludos,
>                       Pablo Flores
>
>
>                       On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry
>                       <tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
>                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>
>                       <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
>                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>>
>                       <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
>                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>
>
>                       <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>
>                <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tarunpondicherry at gmail.com>>>>> wrote:
>
>                          Hi Pablo,
>
>                          I tried to address most of these concerns in
>         the updated
>                       version.
>                           Please let me know if I got the attempted
>         fixes right.
>
>
>                       I'll try to take some time this afternoon to
>         test the
>                system.
>                        What I found with the previous version is that
>         BrowseNew
>                       didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg
>         that it
>                would
>                       be very simplifying for teachers and children to
>         make
>                       BrowseNew go straight to
>                http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a
>                       page I will get some time to finish with the
>                instructions to
>                       start to work. Would it be possible to change this?
>
>
>
>                          I'm also thinking about how to configure the
>         language.
>                        Currently,
>                          it detects if the Browser is es or en and
>         bases its
>                setting on
>                          that.  We could also change it to force es not
>                matter what.
>                        Which
>                          do you think is better?
>
>                       For us, both possibilities are good if they work
>         well ;-)
>
>
>
>                          Another concern I have is that if testers
>         login at
>                the same
>                       time
>                          with the same username, it may break things.
>          Is this
>                       something to
>                          worry about, or will the system be tested by one
>                person at
>                       a time?
>
>                       Well, this may be a real problem working in a real
>                school. The
>                       normal workflow is that the teacher proposes
>         something
>                to work
>                       in and blog about it, then children start to work
>                       altogether.... what problems may happen?
>
>
>
>
>
>




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