[Olpc-sysadmin] [Wiki-gang] OLPC's Wiki: Designers and Sysadmin's needed

Tue Jun 9 11:17:52 EDT 2009

Hi all,

An outline with some discussion of goals and why the proposals should
be considered would be appropriate.

      --Fred

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Henry Edward Hardy<hhardy01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I also suggest considering the LTS release for server installation.
>
> --HH.
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Stefan Unterhauser<dogi at laptop.org> wrote:
>> > Yes me ...
>> > I m setting up a new ubuntu 9.04 VM for the purpose of
>> > testwiki.laptop.org
>> > so tomorrow can give that to the public (FGrose, olpc-team and vig)
>> > during the weekly #olpc-admin meeting we will discuss the next steps ...
>> > Ok FGrose?
>> >
>>
>> I wasn't in the decision making part for the VM, so apologies from
>> jumping in, but I am curious about Ubuntu 9.04 as opposed to 8.04
>> which is LTS and supported with updates for 5 years. I usually run my
>> servers on 6.06 or 8.04, so I thought I'd ask.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Sameer
>> --
>> Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
>> Associate Professor of Information Systems
>> San Francisco State University
>> San Francisco CA 94132 USA
>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
>> http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
>>
>>
>> > can everybody who wants to have access send an sshkey
>> >
>> > by the way since the wiki of vig.laptop.org will be the first testcase
>> > for testwiki
>> > (cloning the vig database) who wants to have wikiadmin rights there
>> > please send to dogi at laptop.org your username ... :P
>> >
>> > cu
>> > dogi
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Tiago Marques <tiagomnm at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Are you still looking for someone to fix the wiki?
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Tiago Marques
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Seth Woodworth<seth at laptop.org> wrote:
>> >>> This is one of my concerns about the vig wiki:  Creating another
>> >>> registration wall for users to jump through is a "Bad Idea" (tm).
>> >>>
>> >>> I can understand if the VIG team wants to document servers and systems
>> >>> in a
>> >>> way that shouldn't be public.  But there is no reason to move *all*
>> >>> sever
>> >>> documentation to this new wiki, nor to make everyone who wants to
>> >>> participate in the wiki migration to signup and be approved on a new
>> >>> wiki.
>> >>> Wiki.l.o allows participation without registration for a reason.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please migrate the page back to wiki.l.o if you would like to use it
>> >>> for
>> >>> planning.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Frederick Grose <fgrose at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I've posted this letter at
>> >>>> http://vig.laptop.org/wiki/index.php/Wiki_upgrade to initiate a
>> >>>> collaboration page for the effort.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Please note that editing on the vig.laptop.org  test/development wiki
>> >>>> requires an email-confirmed account.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>    --Fred
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Seth Woodworth <seth at laptop.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I want to brief you about a project I want to work on in the next 10
>> >>>>> days
>> >>>>> or so involving OLPC's wiki.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Background:
>> >>>>> OLPC's wiki is a resource for deployment countries, OLPC volunteers,
>> >>>>> programmers, and educators, it contains support information, essays
>> >>>>> about
>> >>>>> education, obscure technical documentation, and public health.  It's
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> fairly large wiki at about 8k articles, ~20k unique visitors a day
>> >>>>> from over
>> >>>>> a hundred countries, and at various times in it's lifecycle been on
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> first page of results on google for the term "wiki". (it's now on
>> >>>>> page 2)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Standing issues:
>> >>>>> Wiki.laptop.org is messy.  In many ways wiki.laptop.org has never
>> >>>>> really
>> >>>>> had a lot of time and effort dedicated by anyone to coordinate what
>> >>>>> goes on
>> >>>>> there.  It is an untended garden, but it still grows great
>> >>>>> vegetables.  The
>> >>>>> server that hosts wiki.l.o (pedal) also hosts a lot of
>> >>>>> mission-critical
>> >>>>> services (email, etc), and contains some private information.  This
>> >>>>> makes it
>> >>>>> really hard for volunteers to get access to the server to help us
>> >>>>> fix
>> >>>>> things.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ideal situation:
>> >>>>> Ideally, wiki.laptop.org should be easier for the community to get
>> >>>>> involved.  It should be on it's own server.  It should have more
>> >>>>> admin's.
>> >>>>> It should have a skin and visual apearance other than that of
>> >>>>> default
>> >>>>> mediawiki.  It should also be a lot more resistant to spam and
>> >>>>> vandalism.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Plan of attack:
>> >>>>> We need to set up a test wiki on it's own virtual server.  This new
>> >>>>> wiki
>> >>>>> should be the latest stable install of MediaWiki, with all of the
>> >>>>> plugins
>> >>>>> that OLPC uses on the current wiki (or maybe not, we should evaluate
>> >>>>> what
>> >>>>> we're using).  And ideally we would have a designer skin this new
>> >>>>> wiki
>> >>>>> graphically.  Once we have this test wiki up and running, we can
>> >>>>> migrate the
>> >>>>> wiki.l.o database to this new server.  Lastly we will move the
>> >>>>> wiki.laptop.org domain to point to this new server.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This process needs to start with some information gathering and some
>> >>>>> innitial coordination.  I will reach out to several lists early this
>> >>>>> week
>> >>>>> and start this process.  This email is going to a few low-member #
>> >>>>> lists
>> >>>>> (and individuals) who I think will have an interest and innitial
>> >>>>> feedback.
>> >>>>> When the conversation really kicks off, we should use the Volunteer
>> >>>>> Infrastructure Group list to coordinate our efforts.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For those of you who aren't yet members:
>> >>>>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sysadmin
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thank you,
>> >>>>> Seth Woodworth
>> >>>>>
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