[Sur] [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SLOB motion

[Samson Goddy]

Hello all,

It is more than 24hrs since walter requested this motion should be
seconded, so that voting can begin.
Sorry for thinking this way, but is it that the community don't want to
support the Bordeaux trip at all?

This is the second time i am making a proposal. First, was for me and Ibiam
which our sole purpose was to travel together to represent Sugarlabs and
possible connect to sponsors for future SL workshops in Nigeria. That was
declined because some people feel we are traveling first class trip.

Is this how SL tend to grow further by not supporting members for outreach
programs? Please bare in mind i am just 17, i don't have a steady stream of
money or income as most of you do. This community became my responsibility
ever since i became part of the board members. Of course SL money should be
use to promote Sugar which i think this proposal is doing.

I want to simply know if i will have some support from the community while
trying to promote Sugar in Bordeaux. Please bare in mind, a community can
never grow if we cannot have a good marketing strategy. it is not all about
maintaining our project but by promoting it.


On Jun 3, 2017 1:37 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.bender en gmail.com> wrote:

> Please excuse the top post.
>
> I'd like to bring some clarity to the discussion of this motion. As most
> of you know, Sugar Labs is a member project of the Software Freedom
> Conservancy. The Conservancy has well-established guidelines for travel,
> and the travel plans in the proposal accompanying the motion are well
> within these guidelines. So while I appreciate Adam's help in reducing the
> costs of Samson's trip, I think those efforts are a distraction from the
> motion itself, which, at its essence is a proposal to attend the Scratch
> conference as an invited speaker on behalf of Sugar Labs. I have confidence
> that with Adam's help, the costs may well be less than the < US$800 stated
> in the motion, but what about the motion? Is there someone who will second
> it so we can vote?
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy en gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 1, 2017 1:28 PM, "Adam Holt" <holt en laptop.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy en gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This would set a terrible precedent for Sugar Labs to pay $800 for a
>>> visa alone.
>>>
>>> Flight and other things connected.
>>>
>>>
>> All for the sake of 1 visa alone, let's hope it happens (sorry you're
>> flying instead of taking the new train from Port Harcourt to Lagos isn't
>> ready yet...)
>>
>> Strange that my parents spent an important part of their lives teaching
>>>  in Nigeria and I happen to know more about modern Lagos (where Samson
>>> would apply for his French govt visa) than a steady stream of hyperbolic
>>> claims have insinuated.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am a Nigerian, you are not.
>>>
>>>
>> Luckily they charge the same price regardless our ethnicity here at this
>> $~19/night room in good proximity to the French Embassy in Lagos: (Lekki,
>> by Lagos Island, I know it well)
>>
>>    http://airbnb.com/rooms/13639701
>>
>> Air/conditioning, Internet, Amenities etc...I don't spend this much
>> myself but there are in fact options in every price range.
>>
>> Staying a  standard hotel, is and always be the best option for me. I am
>> not an adult yet technically, the street in Lagos is not meant for people
>> like me.
>>
>> Meaning i can't use this service, only hotels. My parents wouldn't even
>> let me try it.
>>
>> It may sound crazy but that how it is.
>>
>>
>> Things are crazy expensive in Nigeria.
>>>
>>>
>> Nigeria has a truly great sense of humor and Nigerians are more
>> resourceful than most imagine.
>>
>> Yeah we all are, but the government isn't.
>>
>>
>> As such I will continue to vote My Conscience -- *AGAINST THIS MOTION
>>> with respect for all and malice toward none* -- up until the point
>>> where:
>>>
>>> 1) The total is reduced to $500 (receipts provided per SFConservancy
>>> policies).
>>>
>>> If $800 can't be given to me, i am okay with  $500-600. Just that it
>>> will make me use lot of my savings i have been keeping for my internet
>>> plan. Half is better than none.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks much Samson for being understanding and honoring all who wish they
>> had this opportunity!
>>
>>
>>> 2) It is clarified in writing (within the motion or nearby) what happens
>>> if the money disappears, if the French Govt insists on rejecting Samson's
>>> visa application.  (In short: would Sugar Labs or Scratch pay this up-to-
>>> $500 ?)
>>>
>>>
>> The motion needs to quickly clarify the above.
>>
>> Frankly, there is no need for this. I said Sugar Labs is not going to
>> give me any money or support me until i have my visa that hand. This motion
>> is purely for reimbursement.
>>
>> You made it clear that SL might lose money. So this is how i tend to
>> prevent that. I am going to use my personal savings with so little support
>> with the scratch community. Then get reimbursed if i am successful.
>>
>>
>> Onwards & Upwards ~
>>
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