[Sur] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

[Daniel Narvaez]

Sorry for the top posting, quoting on gmail on iPhone is a pain.

* I'm glad that you see some runway for the XO and I really hope you are
right, it would be awesome. I think even just the uncertainity is a big
issue for upstream development at the moment. Not knowing if anyone is
going to build F20 based images for example...
* The issue I see with Chromebook is that it's mostly a locked down
platform. It has a supported developer mode which is better than nothing
but I'm not sure is enough. How many people will feel like going through
the hassle and risk to break their working OS? Will deployments be able to
work with something like that? It even requires to ctrl-d on every boot...
I sort of wish the ARM vendors started to use secure uefi, and that's
saying it all :/

On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Walter Bender wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarvaez en gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > On 4 November 2013 22:53, Sean DALY <sdaly.be en gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> * It's not clear to me where we are going. The OLPC/Sugar development
> >> ecosystem seems to be at a crossroads. I am encouraged by the web
> activity
> >> work, but don't understand the path of transposing the value
> proposition of
> >> Sugar (interface, Journal, collaboration, Activities) to handheld
> tactile
> >> devices (tablets to smartphones). PCs (of any size) with keyboards are
> no
> >> longer competitive with tablets for grade-school classroom use. Perhaps
> the
> >> XO-4 could still be in the running; there is no clear message from OLPC.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll try to express briefly my feelings about the directions the project
> > could take. Note that I might be missing a lot of what is going on above
> the
> > technical level.
> >
> > * The XO is not a viable hardware platform other than for existing
> > deployments. OLPC is pretty clearly going in a different direction.
>
> I may be alone in thinking that there will be some runway left with
> the XO. But deployments need alternatives regardless.
>
> > * Sugar web activities on the top of a full Android loses too much of the
> > Sugar value proposition. It's great to have it in addition to
> Sugar-the-OS,
> > but it's not enough alone.
>
> I agree.
>
> > * From the technical point of view there are several ways to get
> > Sugar-the-OS running on tactile devices. Unfortunately it's not clear to
> me
> > that any of these devices is open enough to be viable for deployments or
> > "ordinary" users.
>
> We looked at ChromeOS a few years back, but at the time it was too
> heavy for our hardware. Today, it is a different story. Might be a
> viable option. Certainly running GNU/Linux/Sugar on a ChromeBook is
> not a bad starting point.
>
> >
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>
> -walter
>
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> Walter Bender
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