[OLPC-SF] [support-gang] Help Activity Refresh during summit?

Cherry Withers cwithers at ekindling.org
Wed Oct 5 00:15:00 EDT 2011 

Caryl,

No, I am not leading a separate discussion. It is the same project. I am
however, trying to figure out the logistics of this sprint (with thankfully
the help of Robert).  Since I am also part of the planning committee for the
summit, I want to make sure you all have a place to work before and during
the summit and whatever scheduling that we will be doing will be optimal for
everyone. The discussion happened during our pub crawl last Saturday when
our committee was looking for a place for our gathering on Saturday and the
topic of scheduling events and talks were being discussed.

This discussion was revived today by Christoph and my name have been thrown
around (I have not contributed to this discussion since Sept 21st). I would
be glad to bow out of this effort altogether if I am creating any conflicts.


---Cherry
P.S. FlossManuals feeds directly to the XO help activity. However the draft
in: http://laptop.org/8.2.0/manual/
does not match the one that you can edit:
http://booki.flossmanuals.net/xo/_edit/  so I sent out a query to the booki
mailing list as well as the question as to where the image folder for this
manual resides. I will forward whatever Adam H. response is and feel free to
continue the discussion without me.


On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi Folks, Adam, Christoph, Cherry, and all...
>
> We seem to be running on two or more different tracks here.  A few weeks
> ago the discussion was about revising, refurbishing, and/or redoing the Help
> Activity documentation.  Originally it was suggested that Christoph and I
> lead this project.  Is Cherry's project the same one or different?  The
> original discussion suggested that we start at the summit and continue
> after, until done (or maybe never really "done").  We also discussed having
> it all set up and ready to go before the summit, and recruiting folks before
> the event, and at it, to work on it.  Whichever it is, I see some things
> that need to be decided and set up before we all land in the Bay Area.
>
> 1) What platform will we use for our work?  FLOSS manuals? Google Docs? the
> OLPC wiki? Other?
>
> 2) What structure will we use?  Will we just revise what is there, or make
> a fresh start?
>
> 3) What will be included? This is the most important question of all.  An
> updated version of the current Help Activity seems to be where we should
> start. But, what else should be in it?  What other Activities should we
> add? Should we include lesson plans?
>
> The above questions would best be dealt with now so we are all set up and
> ready to go when we arrive.
>
> My preferences on the above are:
>
> 1) any platform is fine with me.  Whatever will have the most usable final
> format gets my vote.
> 2) I would like to see a fresh start.  Make a new chapter outline, putting
> in what we already have and leaving room for new sections that can be added.
> A dynamic structure that is easy to add to and revise on an ongoing basis
> would get my vote.
> 3) More Activities such as the TamTams, FotoTune, Measure.  Lesson ideas
> but not complete plans.
>
> So, I suggest we proceed in the following manner:
>
> Choose a platform
>
> Make a "book outline" (could be done in google docs or on the wiki)
>
> Set up the outline on the chosen work platform
>
> So.... what do the rest of you think?  Am I helping on this or should I
> just get back to planting my fall garden? Who else is in on this project?
>
> Cheers!
> Caryl
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Subject: Re: [OLPC-SF] [support-gang] Help Activity Refresh during
> summit?
> > From: rihoward1 at gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 19:29:56 -0700
> > CC: rihoward1 at gmail.com; sverma at sfsu.edu; support-gang at lists.laptop.org;
> olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org; cwithers at ekindling.org;
> olpc-social at googlegroups.com
> > To: e0425826 at student.tuwien.ac.at
>
> >
> > Christoph,
> >
> > Cherry was planning on organizing a documentation sprint. We had a brief
> discussion last Saturday about this and she definitely did not want it to
> interfere with the Community Summit sessions. I was going to suggest Friday
> Oct 21st before registration for the OLPC-SF Community Summit if that is
> okay with Cherry. A meeting place would be required for this. Depending on
> how many people are involved and what I have on my schedule, I may be able
> to help with finding a location for this if a room is not available before
> registration opens.
> >
> > Cherry what do you think?
> >
> > /Robert
> >
> > On Oct 4, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > now that I finally have my flights (yippie!) and saw Tabitha's
> documentation e-mail on the developer mailing lists today I thought we
> should pick this topic up again.
> > >
> > > As I understand it now quite a few of us will already be in town by
> late Thursday so I was thinking we could try to get together before the
> opening on Friday to get some work done on this front.
> > >
> > > I also just learned that one of the Finish volunteers who closely
> worked with the famous Sdenka Salas in Puno, Peru will be in the Bay Area
> for the Google SOC documentation camp which is taking place from Oct. 17 to
> 21. Maybe we could also convince her to at least drop by on Friday or better
> yet stay for the Summit as well.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Christoph
> > >
> > > Am 21.09.2011 18:24, schrieb Sameer Verma:
> > >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Cherry Withers <
> cwithers at ekindling.org
> > >> <mailto:cwithers at ekindling.org>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Speaking of which Rita, I know Kathleen worked on an excellent
> > >> built-in Quick Guides for Etoys but should we have a section on the
> > >> Help manual for Etoys like TurtleArt? I think it will be great but
> > >> may be redundant.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Rita Freudenberg
> > >> <rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de <mailto:rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Why not set up a book sprint for that? At the conference, you
> > >> could put aside the 2 hours (like Christoph suggested) to plan
> > >> and coordinate what needs to be done on the documentation. A
> > >> book sprint can be done afterwards online over the internet, we
> > >> did this at Squeakland.
> > >>
> > >> Greetings,
> > >> Rita
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> We do have two extra rooms this year that can be used for sessions
> such
> > >> as this one. Run with it!
> > >>
> > >> Sameer
> > >>
> > >> On Sep 21, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> A update in the documentation would be great.
> > >>> We finished implementation of new style toolbar in all the
> > >>> activities included by default [1]
> > >>> and the documentation is outdated.
> > >>> I think we need clone the manuals, in fflossmanuals and do a
> > >>> 0.94 version.
> > >>> May be is a long task to the summit, but if there are enough
> > >>> people, can be done.
> > >>>
> > >>> Gonzalo
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.3.0/Activities
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Cherry Withers
> > >>> <cwithers at ekindling.org <mailto:cwithers at ekindling.org>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>
> > >>> As you know we are taking topic suggestions for the
> > >>> OLPC-SF summit. I thought I'd check
> > >>> here first if anyone's interested in doing a hack session
> > >>> on the Help Activity. I think it might have
> > >>> been a year since the last update? I know a lot of these
> > >>> activities are intuitive enough to be figured
> > >>> out by a child but a lot of folks do need a little help.
> > >>>
> > >>> For instance, I would love to see a short help guide on
> > >>> how to use TamTamJam/Mini (perhaps something
> > >>> that will result in a small tune composition at the end of
> > >>> it) since I've only been able to produce what many would
> > >>> consider
> > >>> noise with those Activities. Perhaps one small project in
> > >>> Physics? or help guide for Measure? SocialCalc? If we can do
> > >>> just one it will be great.
> > >>>
> > >>> Or is this all too much for an hour or two?
> > >>>
> > >>> Just checking,
> > >>> Cherry
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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