[OLPC-SF] Fwd: [IAEP] Fwd: Not new, but needs to be addressed

[Edward Cherlin]

FYI

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From: Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [OLPC-SF] Not new, but needs to be addressed
To: Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
Cc: Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com>, iaep <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>


Good summary.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is my list of complaints from that evaluation, which was obviously
> using a 600-series OS version.
>
> not traditional desktop metaphor

Fact.

> no tabbed browsing

I have a proposal for this which I've been meaning to mockup.  I'm
adding it to my todo list now.

> flaky wireless

A lot better, these days.

> some bad machines: difficulty turning on and peeling mousepad.
> flaky mouse
> has a mouse instead of mouse-alternatives (?)

Hardware. (Still important, being worked on.)

> popup menus too slow

This is something we should look into.  Actually, we've slowed down
their appearance since then, because we found that people were often
waiting for the menu, instead of clicking directly on the icon/button
directly.  We've also added the right-click to reveal the palette
immediately.  I think the current state is reasonable, but more
feedback on this is welcomed.

> activity startup too slow

Improving a little.

> see address in browser bar should be easier (fixed)

Yup.

> hard to save to USB. Should be accessible from within an activity.

Yup.

> scroll bars too small, especially for subsidiary panes (interesting issue
> for grab key, BTW)

Right.  The grab key continually eludes.  I know Erik worked on it for
a bit, but I don't know the current status or if it's possible to roll
it into a build soon.  If we aren't going to have the grab key, we
truly are going to have to increase the size of the scroll bars.

> I may have missed a few, but I think that most of these are either already
> the focus of effort (and progress) or have been decided against by many
> here. The one I bolded is I think a useful one: why not have a "keep to USB"
> and "keep to SD" option in the keep dropdown menu in the activity toolbar?

You're absolutely right, and that has definitely been the plan.
External devices have never gotten any polish; hopefully as we
redesign the manner in which they work and interact with the Journal
we can also add these types of features.

- Eben

> Jameson
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> FYI.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Valerie Taylor <vtaylor at gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:13 AM
>> Subject: [OLPC-SF] Not new, but needs to be addressed
>> To: olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org
>>
>>
>> This just in from a well-meaning colleague who was using XOs. There
>> are lots of issues identified here. There is a serious
>> failure-to-communicate. These are real concerns for many people and
>> this is what they hear. It is easy to dismiss this as Leigh's problem,
>> but it isn't his alone. Everyone of us associated with OLPC needs to
>> do a better job at bridging this gap.
>>
>> Are there good sources of information that address these issues and
>> guidelines that would ease the transition from PC to XO in situations
>> like this?
>>
>>
>> http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/my-experience-with-olpc-in-tuvalu/
>>
>> ..Valerie
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