[OLPC-Philippines] Pilot Software and Content

Charles Chen ideasman88 at yahoo.com.au
Fri Oct 10 21:38:01 EDT 2008 

Hi Everybody,

I will not be available for our meeting on the 18 October.

However, I will need your help in the school pilot I am organising, namely:

1. Identifying the best software to use to run the XO;
2. Identifying a suitable content to teach learning English for a Grade IV level class.

The proposed pilot will seek to use the OLPC XO as a teaching aid in learning English. The curriculum will still be based on the existing one approved by DepED.

Thanks.

Charles



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Stallman and OLPC (Jerome Gotangco)
   2. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at 8PM PHT.
      (Carlos Nazareno)
   3. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at 8PM PHT.
      (Jerome Gotangco)
   4. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at 8PM PHT (Greg Smith)
   5. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at 8PM PHT
      (Jerome Gotangco)
   6. Re: OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at 8PM PHT.
      (melch valimento)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:34:48 +0800
From: "Jerome Gotangco" <jgotangco at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] Stallman and OLPC
To: mjmendoza at ymail.com, "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
	<olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org>
Message-ID:
	<c138e6150810092334h140e77f5sea7e6d358b5213fb at mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/10 Mj Mendoza IV <mjmendoza at ymail.com>:
> I'm just concerned if we (all the OLPC volunteers in general) are
really
> helping out the OLPC Project in bringing out its core goals.

He (Stallman) also wrote this:

"Proprietary software keeps users divided and helpless. Its
functioning is secret, so it is incompatible with the spirit of
learning. Teaching children to use a proprietary (non-free) system
such as Windows does not make the world a better place, because it
puts them under the power of the system's developer -- perhaps
permanently. You might as well introduce the children to an addictive
drug. If the XO turns out to be a platform for spreading the use of
proprietary software, its overall effect on the world will be
negative."

Stallman is likening Windows to a drug? This was discussed before. I'd
rather not elaborate. I used to contribute to the FSF as a sustaining
member but how things are going lately, with Stallman at the
forefront, and raiding Apple Stores, etc. they've become
fundamentalists looking to cull the infidels.

Sugar as a learning platform should not be locked to this
fundamentalist mindset. Sugar ported to Windows is a win for learning,
expands learning opportunities, reaches a bigger audience. But this is
not the ultimate goal of Sugar (porting).

-- 
Jerome G.

Website: http://www.gotangco.com
Blog: http://engage.wordpress.com


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:09:09 +0800
From: "Carlos Nazareno" <object404 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at
	8PM PHT.
To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
	<olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org>
Message-ID:
	<c58c2c4a0810100109l19591fa4gc6dbdb8873c13b30 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Ganito.

Si Melch di pa masyado versed sa Linux.

On Oct. 13, lalabas na dapat yung OS build 8.2.0 final which is the
one they'll be shipping with the upcoming Nov.17 Give 1 Get 1 OLPC
program.

Can you USB-clean install Michaelangelo with 8.2.0 final when it comes
out, install the newer G1G1 activity pack (I think they'll update it
for 8.2.0), then install Opera 9.60, Flash 10 RC, and Midnight
commander for Melch?

Also, can you try and help figure out how to install
gstreamer-plugins-ugly sa 8.2.0 para tumakbo yung sound sa Gnash? Para
makapag-test din si Melch sa standalone version ng Gnash.
gstreamer-ffmpeg installs fine sa build 767.

Tapos kayo na lang ni Melch magmeet? (convenient naman kay Melch from his YM).

I'll update the Opera page sa olpc wiki to reflect the newly release
version 9.60 rpms.

Melch, oks, meetup na lang kayo ni Jerome. Hintayin mo na lang na
ilabas ng OLPC team yung bagong OS build which should be soon.

-Naz

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Jerome Gotangco <jgotangco at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Carlos Nazareno
<object404 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jerome, can we meet up sometime next week or maybe weekend next week?
>> I'd like to lend Michaelangelo to Melch so he can do some Flash
>> hands-on testing.
>
> Sure although I'm afraid I'll be in Ortigas the whole week. If you
> want, I can send it directly to Melch (I can pack it with the box) or
> we could meet up at Ortigas. Weekends have been busy for me lately.
>
> --
> Jerome G.
>
> Website: http://www.gotangco.com
> Blog: http://engage.wordpress.com
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-- 
Carlos Nazareno
http://www.object404.com

interactive media specialist
zen graffiti studios
naz at zengraffiti.com


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:42:59 +0800
From: "Jerome Gotangco" <jgotangco at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at
	8PM PHT.
To: "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
	<olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org>
Message-ID:
	<c138e6150810100142p2970eb59r358aba03bd324f19 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

2008/10/10 Carlos Nazareno <object404 at gmail.com>:
> Ganito.
>
> Si Melch di pa masyado versed sa Linux.
>
> On Oct. 13, lalabas na dapat yung OS build 8.2.0 final which is the
> one they'll be shipping with the upcoming Nov.17 Give 1 Get 1 OLPC
> program.
>
> Can you USB-clean install Michaelangelo with 8.2.0 final when it comes
> out, install the newer G1G1 activity pack (I think they'll update it
> for 8.2.0), then install Opera 9.60, Flash 10 RC, and Midnight
> commander for Melch?

It's already in 767candidate when the final build comes out, he can
just use olpc-update from the Terminal activity. The G1G1v2 is already
included on the current machine, but if he can wait I can put it on a
clean slate when 8.2.0 is released.

> Also, can you try and help figure out how to install
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly sa 8.2.0 para tumakbo yung sound sa Gnash? Para
> makapag-test din si Melch sa standalone version ng Gnash.
> gstreamer-ffmpeg installs fine sa build 767.

I'll check it this weekend. Usually gstreamer-plugins-ugly contains
codecs that are either 1) proprietary or 2) not exactly ready for
primetime.


> Tapos kayo na lang ni Melch magmeet? (convenient naman kay Melch from his
YM).
>
> I'll update the Opera page sa olpc wiki to reflect the newly release
> version 9.60 rpms.
>
> Melch, oks, meetup na lang kayo ni Jerome. Hintayin mo na lang na
> ilabas ng OLPC team yung bagong OS build which should be soon.

Anytime next week, I am in Ortigas. Sorry won't be working from home
for quite a while so Ortigas would be the most convenient place to
meet up.


-- 
Jerome G.

Website: http://www.gotangco.com
Blog: http://engage.wordpress.com


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:55:54 -0400
From: Greg Smith <gregsmitholpc at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at
	8PM PHT
To: olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org
Message-ID: <48EF50DA.5030407 at laptop.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Guys,

Great to see all the activity in the Philippines list!

I would love to see an RPG! We need more fun.

One note on Flash, its hard to collect all the Flash threads but I 
believe that Flash 10 is running a little better on the XO. We still 
have a challenge with Flash acceleration not working well with out AMD 
Geode chip. This results in slow performance for Flash, even when using 
the most compatible version. Let me know if you get different results.

I believe someone has pushed AMD and Adobe to talk about that and I'm 
hoping Adobe will fix it soon, but I don't have the details.

On Joyrdie and releases, that is correct that Joyride is the 
"development" branch. It contains the latest and greatest but maybe 
broken too.

More information on Releases and where to get them is at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases
with past releases listed under the release notes link:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes

We're about to post the next major release, 8.2.0 as early as next week. 
You can get a signed version of that by following instructions here:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing

I suggest that you do any activity or new development with that version.

Let me know if you have any questions or need more info. I'm not that 
expert in activity packaging and game development but I can connect you 
to people who are have any questions.

Thanks,

Greg Smith
OLPC Product Manager

PS I think I picked up a little tagalog: Pa-test naman = great news?

PPS Naz, you're making a great impact on the devel list. Keep it up!




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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:58:53 +0800
From: "Jerome Gotangco" <jgotangco at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at
	8PM PHT
To: greg at laptop.org, "OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots"
	<olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org>
Message-ID:
	<c138e6150810100558m4d8a3cd1v71893afa4e3c3295 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Greg Smith <gregsmitholpc at gmail.com>
wrote:

> PS I think I picked up a little tagalog: Pa-test naman = great news?

Hey Greg, nice to see you here!

Pa test naman = please test

:-)


-- 
Jerome G.

Website: http://www.gotangco.com
Blog: http://engage.wordpress.com


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:24:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: melch valimento <melch_man at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OLPC-Philippines] OLPC PH next meeting: Oct. 17,	2008 at
	8PM PHT.
To: OLPC Philippines/Pilipinas grassroots
	<olpc-philippines at lists.laptop.org>
Message-ID: <223172.38925.qm at web43142.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Jerome, Naz,
 
 I'm willing to wait for the new build :) Thanks!
 
 @ Greg: Nice to hear from you :) I'd love to see an RPG on the XO too, so
I hope this works out well, hehe.
 
 Regards,
 Melch

Jerome Gotangco <jgotangco at gmail.com> wrote: 2008/10/10 Carlos Nazareno :
> Ganito.
>
> Si Melch di pa masyado versed sa Linux.
>
> On Oct. 13, lalabas na dapat yung OS build 8.2.0 final which is the
> one they'll be shipping with the upcoming Nov.17 Give 1 Get 1 OLPC
> program.
>
> Can you USB-clean install Michaelangelo with 8.2.0 final when it comes
> out, install the newer G1G1 activity pack (I think they'll update it
> for 8.2.0), then install Opera 9.60, Flash 10 RC, and Midnight
> commander for Melch?

It's already in 767candidate when the final build comes out, he can
just use olpc-update from the Terminal activity. The G1G1v2 is already
included on the current machine, but if he can wait I can put it on a
clean slate when 8.2.0 is released.

> Also, can you try and help figure out how to install
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly sa 8.2.0 para tumakbo yung sound sa Gnash? Para
> makapag-test din si Melch sa standalone version ng Gnash.
> gstreamer-ffmpeg installs fine sa build 767.

I'll check it this weekend. Usually gstreamer-plugins-ugly contains
codecs that are either 1) proprietary or 2) not exactly ready for
primetime.


> Tapos kayo na lang ni Melch magmeet? (convenient naman kay Melch from his
YM).
>
> I'll update the Opera page sa olpc wiki to reflect the newly release
> version 9.60 rpms.
>
> Melch, oks, meetup na lang kayo ni Jerome. Hintayin mo na lang na
> ilabas ng OLPC team yung bagong OS build which should be soon.

Anytime next week, I am in Ortigas. Sorry won't be working from home
for quite a while so Ortigas would be the most convenient place to
meet up.


-- 
Jerome G.

Website: http://www.gotangco.com
Blog: http://engage.wordpress.com
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