[OLPC-Chicago] June 2

[Michael Tobis]

+1 hacketyhack
-1 Ruby

Aargh. Ruby. Somewhat weaker platform. Vastly better marketing. Aargh.

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On 5/11/07, Atul Varma <varmaa at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/11/07, Andrew Harrington <aharrin at luc.edu> wrote:
> > I guess Ian will report on the politics, but the idea of the 'Show
> > Source' key and keeping things in the simple Python may make them not
> > encourage web apps with a lot of javascript.  Of course if the main
> > logic is in Python scripts driven by the localhost server, there would
> > be Python behind everything.  I wonder if it would show up with the
> > 'Show Source' button code that Ivan said Guido was coding.
>
>
> Yes, this was my impression (the idea that everything would be done in
> Python, very little to zero Javascript required).  Yesterday Chris and
> Damien and I were talking about how annoyingly hard it is to actually do web
> development: it really intimidates me, honestly, because I want writing a
> simple program to be simple; it should be as simple as it was in BASIC when
> I was a kid, but with all the web frameworks I've seen, it's never that
> easy--I always have to know intricacies about HTML and Javascript and CSS
> and browser compatibility and servers and clients and URL mappings and it's
> terrifying.  Perhaps necessarily so, perhaps unnecessarily so, but it's
> still terrifying.
>
> Chris and Damien also told me about a cool program called Hackety Hack
> (http://hacketyhack.net/), though, which seems to get a lot of those
> annoyances out of the way and let people just code stuff.  I'd be interested
> in doing something like this not only for OLPC but also for, well, people
> like me, because I don't like the fact that web development is as hard as it
> is.
>
> (That's cool news about Kenya by the way, Andy--I'm looking forward to
> hearing how that goes!)
>
> - Atul
>
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