[OLPC Bolivia] [squeakland] [IAEP] Plan Ceibal y/and General Electric

[Chunka Mui]

Alan  -- 

I¹ve seen many organizations claim to be committed to ³innovation,² while
eschewing ³invention.²  Everyone harvesting while refusing to sow makes for
bad strategy, both societal and corporate.  I guess it¹s ³rational² in some
short-term sense and another example of the free rider problem.  There¹s an
insidious side-effect as well.  By rejecting invention, those organizations
implicitly or explicitly restrict the consideration set for even incremental
innovation.  It¹s hard to reach for even small aspirations if you¹re always
being told to not be ³too far out.² So my experience matches your general
point.  

I don¹t make much experience, however, with the specific example that you
were referring to.  I¹d like to hear more about your perspective about the
guiding principles pre and post Œ82, and how each set of leaders/funders
rationalized their viewpoints.  I¹d also be interested in your sense of the
trend on this topic, since we have a new generation of high tech corporate
leaders and funders and, clearly, another round of massive wealth being
generated.

Regards,
Chunka



On 2/5/11 1:11 PM, "Alan Kay" <alan.nemo en yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Chunka,
> 
> I've been challenged on this point more than once, and have challenged back to
> come up with one invention that was done after 1980 that matches up to the top
> 10 done before 1980.
> 
> This has not happened. I've been able to show the prior art for all
> suggestions.
> 
> Essentially everything in the last 30 years has been commercializations and
> other forms of "innovation" based on what was funded by ARPA, ONR, and by
> extension, Xerox in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
> 
> The important point here is that there are many new inventions needed, and
> they can be identified, but no one has been willing to fund them. It's not
> that the early birds got the worms, but that most of the needed worms out
> there are being missed.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> From: Chunka Mui <chunka en cornerloft.com>
> To: Alan Kay <alan.nemo en yahoo.com>
> Cc: Carlos Rabassa <carnen en mac.com>; "america-latina en squeakland.org"
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> Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 10:53:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [squeakland] [IAEP] Plan Ceibal y/and General Electric
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Alan Kay <alan.nemo en yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> GE is being congratulated for recognizing that the iPhone and iPad are pretty
>> good ideas and technological realizations. But isn't this like the
>> congratulations Bill Gates got for finally recognizing the Internet (about 25
>> years after it had started working)?
>> 
>> Seems as though Apple had a lot more on the ball than Bill Gates or GE here
>> (they used to do computing in the 60s, but couldn't see what it was).
>> 
>> And most of the ideas at Apple (and for personal computing and the Internet)
>> came from research funding that no company or government has been willing to
>> do since 1982.
> 
> 
> Alan -- Could you say more about this point?  Surely there's been tons of CS
> and IT funding since '82, both govt funding to universities and massive
> research budgets at msft, hp,
> 
> Regards,
> Chunka
> 
> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>> From: Carlos Rabassa <carnen en mac.com>
>> To: america-latina en squeakland.org; squeakland.org <http://squeakland.org>
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>> Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 4:11:49 AM
>> Subject: [IAEP] Plan Ceibal y/and General Electric
>> 
>> We try to learn from those who have succeed for a long time:
>> 
>>  
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1XWm2q8nQ-l5KUJ_PWkQruLDx-nZ7nsKDfg4
>> idDlsU50> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1XWm2q8nQ-l5KUJ_PWkQruLDx-nZ7nsKDfg4i
>> dDlsU50
>> 
>> Carlos Rabassa
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