[OLPC-AU] Joining Script

Sun Sep 26 19:14:23 EDT 2010

Hi again - sorry has taken me a while to get back to this - only me supporting the XO rollout in all of the Qld department of education, and I've been doing some travelling.

Now, thanks to Jerry and James for looking at this. I'm not a techie by any means, but basically, our official department networks are hidden in that one must type in the name of the network before a standard (say PC or Mac) machine can find it and connect (also with a username and password).

My understanding was that the XO in sugar doesn't have the capability to access hidden networks in this way. I hadn't even tried GNOME instead - this would supply a partial solution if it does.

I've just now tried connecting to our DETQ network using GNOME - I found I had to select LEAP for authentication, then I could put in a username and password - however the XO then asked for a password to unlock the keyring - any ideas what this password is?

Many thanks, 

Jonathan Nalder

Principal Project Officer (Mobile & Transformational Learning: One Laptop Per Child Australia)
Learning Technologies | Information & Technologies Branch | Department of Education and Training | Queensland Government
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> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:53:16 -0500
> From: Jerry Vonau <jvonau at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] joining script
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> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 09:43 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:12:55AM +1000, Jonathan Nalder wrote:
>>> I have been asked for the Queensland department of Education to find
>>> if there is an existing XO script already written that allows them to
>>> find and connect to hidden networks (such as our departments ones).
>> 
>> Can you describe the technical requirements?
>> 
>> What makes a network hidden?
> 
> Hidden SSID I'm guessing, while in gnome you can use NM's gui to "find
> hidden network" to connect the hidden network. In gnome NM uses dbus
> calls to replace wpa_supplicant.conf on the fly, storing the info in
> ~/.gconf/system/network/connections/<>. You can then switch to sugar,
> and the connection remains active. Once you reboot, sugar is lost again
> and can't "see" the AP with the hidden SSID. Just a note here, even in
> gnome, stored connections are not automatic, you still have find the
> hidden network before you can connect, just don't have to enter the info
> again. There is info about using terminal to bring up the network at:
> 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity
> 
> On a side note, couldn't do pre-NM style networking with just
> wpa_supplicant and network? We would have to get the wpa_supplicant and
> ifcfg files correct, but that seems better that resorting to the cli.
> 
> Jerry
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> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:21:19 +1000
> From: James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] joining script
> To: Jerry Vonau <jvonau at shaw.ca>
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> On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:53:16AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 09:43 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:12:55AM +1000, Jonathan Nalder wrote:
>>>> I have been asked for the Queensland department of Education to find
>>>> if there is an existing XO script already written that allows them to
>>>> find and connect to hidden networks (such as our departments ones).
>>> 
>>> Can you describe the technical requirements?
>>> 
>>> What makes a network hidden?
>> 
>> Hidden SSID I'm guessing, while in gnome you can use NM's gui to "find
>> hidden network" to connect the hidden network. In gnome NM uses dbus
>> calls to replace wpa_supplicant.conf on the fly, storing the info in
>> ~/.gconf/system/network/connections/<>. You can then switch to sugar,
>> and the connection remains active. Once you reboot, sugar is lost again
>> and can't "see" the AP with the hidden SSID.
> 
> Okay, I'm not familiar with that.  Sugar obtains the list of networks
> scanned from NetworkManager (NM).  If NM doesn't provide it, Sugar won't
> list it.  Sounds like a potential feature request for Sugar.
> 
>> On a side note, couldn't do pre-NM style networking with just
>> wpa_supplicant and network? We would have to get the wpa_supplicant and
>> ifcfg files correct, but that seems better that resorting to the cli.
> 
> I don't know, sorry.  devel at lists.laptop.org may have people who know.
> 
> I suggest you try the wireless firmware against a hidden network, to see
> what it does.
> 
> -- 
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 04:10:22 -0500
> From: Jerry Vonau <jvonau at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] joining script
> To: olpc-au at lists.laptop.org
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> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 16:21 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:53:16AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 09:43 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:12:55AM +1000, Jonathan Nalder wrote:
>>>>> I have been asked for the Queensland department of Education to find
>>>>> if there is an existing XO script already written that allows them to
>>>>> find and connect to hidden networks (such as our departments ones).
>>>> 
>>>> Can you describe the technical requirements?
>>>> 
>>>> What makes a network hidden?
>>> 
>>> Hidden SSID I'm guessing, while in gnome you can use NM's gui to "find
>>> hidden network" to connect the hidden network. In gnome NM uses dbus
>>> calls to replace wpa_supplicant.conf on the fly, storing the info in
>>> ~/.gconf/system/network/connections/<>. You can then switch to sugar,
>>> and the connection remains active. Once you reboot, sugar is lost again
>>> and can't "see" the AP with the hidden SSID.
>> 
>> Okay, I'm not familiar with that.  Sugar obtains the list of networks
>> scanned from NetworkManager (NM).  If NM doesn't provide it, Sugar won't
>> list it.  Sounds like a potential feature request for Sugar.
>> 
> 
> By default, in gnome NM doesn't list the hidden networks until you use
> the tray icon to scan for them. Yes, that would be a welcome feature in
> Sugar.
> 
>>> On a side note, couldn't do pre-NM style networking with just
>>> wpa_supplicant and network? We would have to get the wpa_supplicant and
>>> ifcfg files correct, but that seems better that resorting to the cli.
>> 
>> I don't know, sorry.  devel at lists.laptop.org may have people who know.
>> 
>> I suggest you try the wireless firmware against a hidden network, to see
>> what it does.
>> 
> 
> Did that above, with the stated results. Well that was interesting, used
> the info gleaned from:
> 
> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Further_WPA_Configuration_Steps_-_Fedora_.2F_RedHat
> 
> and I have a network connection. Now just need to document the steps on
> how I did it. 
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> Jerry
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