<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi again - sorry has taken me a while to get back to this - only me supporting the XO rollout in all of the Qld department of education, and I've been doing some travelling.<div><br></div><div>Now, thanks to Jerry and James for looking at this. I'm not a techie by any means, but basically, our official department networks are hidden in that one must type in the name of the network before a standard (say PC or Mac) machine can find it and connect (also with a username and password).</div><div><br></div><div>My understanding was that the XO in sugar doesn't have the capability to access hidden networks in this way. I hadn't even tried GNOME instead - this would supply a partial solution if it does.</div><div><br></div><div>I've just now tried connecting to our DETQ network using GNOME - I found I had to select LEAP for authentication, then I could put in a username and password - however the XO then asked for a password to unlock the keyring - any ideas what this password is?</div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks, <br><div>
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</b></b></div></span></div></span></span></span></div><br><div><div>On 02/09/2010, at 2:00 AM, <a href="mailto:olpc-au-request@lists.laptop.org">olpc-au-request@lists.laptop.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Send OLPC-AU mailing list submissions to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:olpc-au@lists.laptop.org">olpc-au@lists.laptop.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>olpc-au-request@lists.laptop.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>olpc-au-owner@lists.laptop.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of OLPC-AU digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: joining script (Jerry Vonau)<br> 2. Re: joining script (James Cameron)<br> 3. Re: joining script (Jerry Vonau)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:53:16 -0500<br>From: Jerry Vonau <jvonau@shaw.ca><br>Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] joining script<br>To: olpc-au@lists.laptop.org<br>Message-ID: <1283320396.11859.146.camel@f12emg><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br><br>On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 09:43 +1000, James Cameron wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:12:55AM +1000, Jonathan Nalder wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I have been asked for the Queensland department of Education to find<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">if there is an existing XO script already written that allows them to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">find and connect to hidden networks (such as our departments ones).<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Can you describe the technical requirements?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">What makes a network hidden?<br></blockquote><br>Hidden SSID I'm guessing, while in gnome you can use NM's gui to "find<br>hidden network" to connect the hidden network. In gnome NM uses dbus<br>calls to replace wpa_supplicant.conf on the fly, storing the info in<br>~/.gconf/system/network/connections/<>. You can then switch to sugar,<br>and the connection remains active. Once you reboot, sugar is lost again<br>and can't "see" the AP with the hidden SSID. Just a note here, even in<br>gnome, stored connections are not automatic, you still have find the<br>hidden network before you can connect, just don't have to enter the info<br>again. There is info about using terminal to bring up the network at:<br><br>http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity<br><br>On a side note, couldn't do pre-NM style networking with just<br>wpa_supplicant and network? We would have to get the wpa_supplicant and<br>ifcfg files correct, but that seems better that resorting to the cli.<br><br>Jerry<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:21:19 +1000<br>From: James Cameron <quozl@laptop.org><br>Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] joining script<br>To: Jerry Vonau <jvonau@shaw.ca><br>Cc: olpc-au@lists.laptop.org<br>Message-ID: <20100901062119.GE4578@us.netrek.org><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:53:16AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 09:43 +1000, James Cameron wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:12:55AM +1000, Jonathan Nalder wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I have been asked for the Queensland department of Education to find<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">if there is an existing XO script already written that allows them to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">find and connect to hidden networks (such as our departments ones).<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Can you describe the technical requirements?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">What makes a network hidden?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hidden SSID I'm guessing, while in gnome you can use NM's gui to "find<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">hidden network" to connect the hidden network. In gnome NM uses dbus<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">calls to replace wpa_supplicant.conf on the fly, storing the info in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">~/.gconf/system/network/connections/<>. You can then switch to sugar,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and the connection remains active. Once you reboot, sugar is lost again<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and can't "see" the AP with the hidden SSID.<br></blockquote><br>Okay, I'm not familiar with that. Sugar obtains the list of networks<br>scanned from NetworkManager (NM). If NM doesn't provide it, Sugar won't<br>list it. Sounds like a potential feature request for Sugar.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On a side note, couldn't do pre-NM style networking with just<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">wpa_supplicant and network? We would have to get the wpa_supplicant and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ifcfg files correct, but that seems better that resorting to the cli.<br></blockquote><br>I don't know, sorry. devel@lists.laptop.org may have people who know.<br><br>I suggest you try the wireless firmware against a hidden network, to see<br>what it does.<br><br>-- <br>James Cameron<br>http://quozl.linux.org.au/<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 04:10:22 -0500<br>From: Jerry Vonau <jvonau@shaw.ca><br>Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] joining script<br>To: olpc-au@lists.laptop.org<br>Message-ID: <1283332222.11859.200.camel@f12emg><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br><br>On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 16:21 +1000, James Cameron wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:53:16AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 09:43 +1000, James Cameron wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:12:55AM +1000, Jonathan Nalder wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I have been asked for the Queensland department of Education to find<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">if there is an existing XO script already written that allows them to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">find and connect to hidden networks (such as our departments ones).<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Can you describe the technical requirements?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">What makes a network hidden?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hidden SSID I'm guessing, while in gnome you can use NM's gui to "find<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">hidden network" to connect the hidden network. In gnome NM uses dbus<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">calls to replace wpa_supplicant.conf on the fly, storing the info in<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">~/.gconf/system/network/connections/<>. You can then switch to sugar,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and the connection remains active. Once you reboot, sugar is lost again<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and can't "see" the AP with the hidden SSID.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Okay, I'm not familiar with that. Sugar obtains the list of networks<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">scanned from NetworkManager (NM). If NM doesn't provide it, Sugar won't<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">list it. Sounds like a potential feature request for Sugar.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>By default, in gnome NM doesn't list the hidden networks until you use<br>the tray icon to scan for them. Yes, that would be a welcome feature in<br>Sugar.<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On a side note, couldn't do pre-NM style networking with just<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wpa_supplicant and network? We would have to get the wpa_supplicant and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ifcfg files correct, but that seems better that resorting to the cli.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I don't know, sorry. devel@lists.laptop.org may have people who know.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I suggest you try the wireless firmware against a hidden network, to see<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">what it does.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>Did that above, with the stated results. Well that was interesting, used<br>the info gleaned from:<br><br>http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Further_WPA_Configuration_Steps_-_Fedora_.2F_RedHat<br><br>and I have a network connection. Now just need to document the steps on<br>how I did it. <br><br>Jerry<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OLPC-AU mailing list<br>OLPC-AU@lists.laptop.org<br>http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au<br><br><br>End of OLPC-AU Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1<br>*************************************<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>