[OLPC library] process

Anne Gentle annegentle at gmail.com
Thu Sep 4 09:59:16 EDT 2008


Woops, sent this from the wrong email address. Apologies if this gets
double-posted, but certainly let me know how I can help with the remix.

Anne

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Anne Gentle
<annegentle at justwriteclick.com>wrote:

> Let me know how I can help.
>
> The %INCLUDE{manual.chapter}% code should work well here (allowing
> within-chapter nesting) and Adam Hyde can walk you through it.
>
> As you point out, Seth, the special keys for views and Networking are good
> candidates for this type of remixing. I'd prioritize networking smoothness
> over the keyboard - seems like once users "get" the keyboard use for views,
> they don't have to be reminded of it much more, but that might just be me.
> :)
>
> Thanks for all the energy here everyone.
> Anne
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:40 AM, adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net> wrote:
>
>> hey Seth,
>>
>> want to skype/irc?
>>
>> adam
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 23:29 -0400, Seth Woodworth wrote:
>> > Adam,
>> >
>> > I think that we're making a lot of progress here.  Overall I am
>> > amazingly happy with the quality of the documentation.  I'm working
>> > with our dev team going over sections, smoothing out some of the
>> > technicalities.  I'm also working with a few other volunteers to
>> > really polish the text and formatting of some of the final sections.
>> > It's really coming together.  We're hoping to have our shipable-html
>> > by Saturday.
>> >
>> > But if we're going to get there we're going to need your help.  The
>> > next 50+ hours around here are going to be crunch time.  We're
>> > committed to finishing our end of the work by the end of the week.
>> > We've been running into some issues, but I think we have a way to
>> > smooth things out.
>> >
>> > In the short term, we're having some issues in the extreme separation
>> > of the XO hardware manual and the Sugar software manual.  The problem
>> > is that the chapters, as written, don't mix into a single whole
>> > manual.  The XO manual explains a good deal of the Sugar networking
>> > system, but the good Network View diagrams are deep in the Sugar
>> > manual.  Also, the UI elements like the View Keys in the frame
>> > directly relate to the keys on the top row of the keyboard.  And it's
>> > important in a well-structured manual to be able to really show the
>> > connection between these two elements.
>> >
>> > Some of the current chapters, as organized now, don't allow for this
>> > to happen by chapter-remix.  The important sections are much smaller
>> > than that.  We've picked out six or seven chapters from the current
>> > sugar manual that we need to inject Hardware elements into directly.
>> >
>> > Now we're very committed to the single-source concept.  That's why the
>> > manual has been kicking around FM since the start of the year.  And it
>> > makes continued sense for OLPC and Sugar to have somewhat separate
>> > manuals.  But in the very-short-term we need to try something a little
>> > different.
>> >
>> > If I'm understanding your tools correctly, the best way to facilitate
>> > this is to create a fresh book for organization.  Into this new book
>> > we pull in around 6 chapters from the Sugar manual and most of the XO
>> > manual.  We take elements from the hardware sections, integrate them
>> > into the Sugar chapters and generate the changed chapters we need, all
>> > to be remixed into the overall OLPC: Sugar+XO output that we'll ship.
>> >
>> > Come next week, after we produce our short term goal, we can work to
>> > segregate out the hardware sections into chapters that flow better
>> > with the Sugar narrative.  Also, by looking at some of your export
>> > tools, it looks possible to place some of the XO sections in Sugar in
>> > <span id=>'s.  That way they can easily be scripted to be pulled out
>> > or included based on the export needs of a given manual. (ie, sugar
>> > can dump the <span id=>'s that don't match what they want to export).
>> >
>> > We're working on a very tight schedule here.  Can we ask you to set up
>> > this new manual right away?  Things are going to be moving very
>> > quickly tomorrow.  We would also like if Adam Holt and I can get
>> > twiki-admin, so we can publish our changes and make any remixes of the
>> > TOC that might come up?  This manual can sit on the back end,
>> > non-public (or public) just so long as we can export new edits quickly
>> > after we make them.  I don't want to screw up the polished Sugar
>> > manual that's sitting on the front of the site.
>> >
>> > --Seth
>> >
>> > Also, could we talk in the morning about your .css?  I need to start
>> > creating stand-alone navigation for our bundle.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:26 PM, adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >         hey Seth,
>> >
>> >         How are you thinking of doing the layout? You are doing this
>> >         by hand? We
>> >         have a nifty remix mechanism that will make your life a lot
>> >         easier...
>> >
>> >         adam
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Anne Gentle
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> blog: www.justwriteclick.com
>



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Anne Gentle
email: annegentle at justwriteclick.com
blog: www.justwriteclick.com
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