[OLPC library] [sugar] Things I would like taken away from the wiki: Sign-up lists

[Edward Cherlin]

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Seth Woodworth <seth at laptop.org> wrote:
> On the other hand, there is at least one list that *does* make sense on the
> wiki and is well managed tool.  And that's Sayamindu's list on the
> [[Pootle]] page.  This list I will not touch.

That's the one I most often have trouble with.

> But from the rest of everyone's resounding lack of response, I declare this
> a consensus and will now cleanse the wiki of these monstrosities.

Not until you provide a page with an alternative clearly explained.

> -Seth
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:54 PM, FFM <ffm at laptop.org> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:23:04PM -0400, Seth Woodworth wrote:
>> >> There are few policies that we've been implementing from time to time
>> >> on the
>> >> wiki that I would like to see go away.  It's my belief that these
>> >> policies
>> >> are hard to maintain, ill-scalable, and unsupportable as-is.  I suggest
>> >> that
>> >> we retire the following:
>> >>
>> >> == Sign up lists ==
>> >> * Lists where people are encouraged to sign up to do a task or
>> >> contribute to
>> >> a given project.
>> >>
>> >> There are several projects and pages that suggest that you sign-up to
>> >> help
>> >> do '$variable'.  There are several problems with this idea.
>> >>
>> >> There is no automatic mechanism in place to communicate to users who
>> >> sign up
>> >> on a list.  If I wanted to send a message to this list, I would have to
>> >> wade
>> >> through User_talk: pages and communicate with each person individually
>> >> each
>> >> time I want to make an announcement.  This is compounded by the fact
>> >> that
>> >> many users don't sign the page or add a link to their user page, and
>> >> merely
>> >> type their names.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> > We can say "sign with ~~~~".
>>
>> We need a registration page for each of these tasks, one that requires
>> entry of contact information in a way that lets an administrator send
>> mail to every participant. If we allow people to sign up for different
>> roles in a task, we need to have ways for administrators to query a
>> database for people of different roles. I want to be able (just as an
>> example) to send something to all Opportunistic Localizers for Kreyol
>> without extensive manual maintenance and frequent dead ends.
>>
>> >> I feel that a projects should have open task lists or joining a list or
>> >> some
>> >> other mechanism than a sign up list.  Alternatively, if someone were to
>> >> create a bot or tool that makes this ad-hoc list broadcasting function
>> >> (including making sure people are notified via email), I would be
>> >> ecstatic.
>> >
>> > Such bots are in existence on the english wikipedia, they are also open
>> > source.
>>
>> Link?
>>
>> > The issue is that people don't know how easy it is to start a lists.l.o
>> > mailing
>> > list, we need to make that more obvious. That could fix much of this
>> > issue.
>>
>> I would like to see lists right away supporting localizers, teachers,
>> students, and OLPC-<country> in each supported language, starting with
>> Spanish (where we have OLPC-Sur), French, Portuguese, Arabic, and
>> other languages of multiple target countries. Also languages mainly of
>> single target countries (Khmer, Kreyol, Kinyarwanda, Amharic, Pashto,
>> Dari...) but I leave that question to the speakers of those languages.
>>
>> > -FFM
>> >
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