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Fri Feb 20 14:48:53 EST 2009

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>   1. Re: Favorite Projects for XO Development? (Yama Ploskonka)
>   2. unsuscribe please (Cheryl Landy, Ph.D.)
>   3. The Information Train (s.boutayeb at free.fr)
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> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:15:28 -0600
> From: Yama Ploskonka <yama at netoso.com>
> Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] Favorite Projects for XO Development?
> To: Grassroots OLPC <grassroots at lists.laptop.org>
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> Let me quote John Adams "I must study politics and war that my sons may
> have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study
> mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval
> architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give
> their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture,
> statuary, tapestry, and porcelain."
>
> Right now we are not ready for Constructivism.
>
> Hopefully the stage of war is over for most of us (scratch that off if
> you are you-know-where), but the stage of Industry and Commerce never
> yet happened for what we call the Developing World.
>
> Jumping ahead to discovery and arts, or even something as basic as
> sharing, criticism, exploration, while very tempting indeed, might
> require quite a while, and *it cannot be forced*, by definition.  You
> cannot *order* people to be critical thinkers.
>
> Meanwhile we need *relevance* to what is the system now, so we can
> change it *as we go*, while having full buy-in.  The whole OLPC project
> is doomed because it did not notice that need.  We need Content.  We
> need results, objective ones.
>
> Sugar has a chance. It is good if it builds an environment for what
> Walter points at, of course, yet we need right now to feed the users
> what they can take and feel they need.  I applaud quite a few people
> coming to that conclusion recently, getting closer and closer to the
> right answers, so in my lifetime I might see kids among my peoples
> getting the second stage of what John Adams was listing, and /then/ we
> might look for the third.  Yet trying to rush the process will not serve
> them much, or the project
>
> Yama, doing his usual rant
>
>
> Walter Bender wrote:
> > There is nothing ambiguous about the Sugar Labs plans:
> >
> > In Sugar, have in hand the tools to reinvent how computers are used
> > for education. Collaboration, reflection, and discovery are readily
> > integrated directly into the learning experience. Children and
> > teachers have the opportunity to use computers on their own terms,
> > reshape, reinvent, and reapply both software and content into powerful
> > learning activities. Learning can be focused on sharing, criticism,
> > and exploration. We have a lot of work ahead of us to refine these
> > tools and to refine the practice around them, but we have a solid
> > beginning.
> >
> > We can raise a generation of critical thinkers, armed with the
> > complementary tools of science and the arts. All of the necessary
> > tools are freely available under free software licenses. But we do
> > need to invest in engaging teachers, parents, and children in learning
> > learning. So let's make it happen.
> >
> > -walter
> >
> > 2009/2/17  <david at lang.hm>:
> >> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Friends,
> >>>
> >>> OLPC will have a booth this weekend (2/20-2/22) at the Southern
> California
> >>> Area LInux Expo (SCaLE).  This is a large conference (up to 1000) of
> >>> open-source aficionados including programmers.  It is a great chance to
> >>> recruit folks for our team of volunteer developers of Activities for
> the XO.
> >> I spent a large chunk of time in the OLPC booth last year, and one
> >> significant problem was that many people in the booth (including myself)
> >> didn't have a good understanding of the politics and/or current status
> of
> >> things.
> >>
> >> this year things are _much_ messier, I've been trying to understand
> things,
> >> but it's been hard.
> >>
> >> could folks who know what's going on make it a point to check mail
> >> frequently this weekend so that as questions come up that the people
> there
> >> disagree on the answer to the question can be fired off and gat a fairly
> >> prompt answer? it won't stop the wrong answer then, but it can at least
> get
> >> clarified rather than repeating the wrong thing all weekend (or worse,
> >> giving several answers)
> >>
> >> if there is a good 'state of OLPC/Sugar/XO/etc' document to point at
> (such
> >> as the info that came out in the 'Please update etoys in 8.2.1' thread a
> >> couple of weeks ago), it would really help make sure everyone is on the
> same
> >> page.
> >>
> >> I will have my two XO's there, I will try to have them running different
> >> flavors of DebXO (from USB sticks if nothing else, but quite possibly
> from
> >> the NAND), since the future direction is to have them run relativly
> standard
> >> distros, having examples of the different distros would be nice.
> >>
> >> David Lang
> >>
> >>> I am putting together a brochure to pass out at the conference and want
> to
> >>> include information about some of the projects and proposals we have.
>  Could
> >>> you all take a look at the page listed below and make any additions and
> >>> updates you would like included?  I need this done by Wednesday Noon
> (PT).
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects_and_proposals
> >>>
> >>> Caryl  OLPC Support Volunteer
> >>>
> >>> P.S. Excuse the multiple copies of this if you are subscribed to more
> than
> >>> one list.  I will get several copies myself.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:24:06 +0000
> From: "Cheryl Landy, Ph.D." <drlandy at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Grassroots-l] unsuscribe please
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:39:10 +0100
> From: s.boutayeb at free.fr
> Subject: [Grassroots-l] The Information Train
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> Hi all,
>
> For your information, a video with 2 computers (1 XO and a "normal" laptop)
> exchanging real world information provided by a train with the help of
> sensors
> and actuators.
>
> "The Information Train"
>
> "This movie shows the main elements of a winning entry at the "Wizards of
> Science 2009" scientific experiment contest. The entry demonstrates how
> computers communicate with each other by setting up a network in which a
> model
> train transfers a picture's pixels from one computer to the other."
>
> Vid?o :
>
>    * http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/the-information-train/14494555
>    * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXg12lGBzjQ
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