<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:00 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grassroots-request@lists.laptop.org">grassroots-request@lists.laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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1. Re: Favorite Projects for XO Development? (Yama Ploskonka)<br>
2. unsuscribe please (Cheryl Landy, Ph.D.)<br>
3. The Information Train (<a href="mailto:s.boutayeb@free.fr">s.boutayeb@free.fr</a>)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:15:28 -0600<br>
From: Yama Ploskonka <<a href="mailto:yama@netoso.com">yama@netoso.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] Favorite Projects for XO Development?<br>
To: Grassroots OLPC <<a href="mailto:grassroots@lists.laptop.org">grassroots@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
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Let me quote John Adams "I must study politics and war that my sons may<br>
have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study<br>
mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval<br>
architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give<br>
their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture,<br>
statuary, tapestry, and porcelain."<br>
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Right now we are not ready for Constructivism.<br>
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Hopefully the stage of war is over for most of us (scratch that off if<br>
you are you-know-where), but the stage of Industry and Commerce never<br>
yet happened for what we call the Developing World.<br>
<br>
Jumping ahead to discovery and arts, or even something as basic as<br>
sharing, criticism, exploration, while very tempting indeed, might<br>
require quite a while, and *it cannot be forced*, by definition. You<br>
cannot *order* people to be critical thinkers.<br>
<br>
Meanwhile we need *relevance* to what is the system now, so we can<br>
change it *as we go*, while having full buy-in. The whole OLPC project<br>
is doomed because it did not notice that need. We need Content. We<br>
need results, objective ones.<br>
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Sugar has a chance. It is good if it builds an environment for what<br>
Walter points at, of course, yet we need right now to feed the users<br>
what they can take and feel they need. I applaud quite a few people<br>
coming to that conclusion recently, getting closer and closer to the<br>
right answers, so in my lifetime I might see kids among my peoples<br>
getting the second stage of what John Adams was listing, and /then/ we<br>
might look for the third. Yet trying to rush the process will not serve<br>
them much, or the project<br>
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Yama, doing his usual rant<br>
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Walter Bender wrote:<br>
> There is nothing ambiguous about the Sugar Labs plans:<br>
><br>
> In Sugar, have in hand the tools to reinvent how computers are used<br>
> for education. Collaboration, reflection, and discovery are readily<br>
> integrated directly into the learning experience. Children and<br>
> teachers have the opportunity to use computers on their own terms,<br>
> reshape, reinvent, and reapply both software and content into powerful<br>
> learning activities. Learning can be focused on sharing, criticism,<br>
> and exploration. We have a lot of work ahead of us to refine these<br>
> tools and to refine the practice around them, but we have a solid<br>
> beginning.<br>
><br>
> We can raise a generation of critical thinkers, armed with the<br>
> complementary tools of science and the arts. All of the necessary<br>
> tools are freely available under free software licenses. But we do<br>
> need to invest in engaging teachers, parents, and children in learning<br>
> learning. So let's make it happen.<br>
><br>
> -walter<br>
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> 2009/2/17 <<a href="mailto:david@lang.hm">david@lang.hm</a>>:<br>
>> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Caryl Bigenho wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hello Friends,<br>
>>><br>
>>> OLPC will have a booth this weekend (2/20-2/22) at the Southern California<br>
>>> Area LInux Expo (SCaLE). This is a large conference (up to 1000) of<br>
>>> open-source aficionados including programmers. It is a great chance to<br>
>>> recruit folks for our team of volunteer developers of Activities for the XO.<br>
>> I spent a large chunk of time in the OLPC booth last year, and one<br>
>> significant problem was that many people in the booth (including myself)<br>
>> didn't have a good understanding of the politics and/or current status of<br>
>> things.<br>
>><br>
>> this year things are _much_ messier, I've been trying to understand things,<br>
>> but it's been hard.<br>
>><br>
>> could folks who know what's going on make it a point to check mail<br>
>> frequently this weekend so that as questions come up that the people there<br>
>> disagree on the answer to the question can be fired off and gat a fairly<br>
>> prompt answer? it won't stop the wrong answer then, but it can at least get<br>
>> clarified rather than repeating the wrong thing all weekend (or worse,<br>
>> giving several answers)<br>
>><br>
>> if there is a good 'state of OLPC/Sugar/XO/etc' document to point at (such<br>
>> as the info that came out in the 'Please update etoys in 8.2.1' thread a<br>
>> couple of weeks ago), it would really help make sure everyone is on the same<br>
>> page.<br>
>><br>
>> I will have my two XO's there, I will try to have them running different<br>
>> flavors of DebXO (from USB sticks if nothing else, but quite possibly from<br>
>> the NAND), since the future direction is to have them run relativly standard<br>
>> distros, having examples of the different distros would be nice.<br>
>><br>
>> David Lang<br>
>><br>
>>> I am putting together a brochure to pass out at the conference and want to<br>
>>> include information about some of the projects and proposals we have. Could<br>
>>> you all take a look at the page listed below and make any additions and<br>
>>> updates you would like included? I need this done by Wednesday Noon (PT).<br>
>>> Thanks!<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects_and_proposals" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects_and_proposals</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Caryl OLPC Support Volunteer<br>
>>><br>
>>> P.S. Excuse the multiple copies of this if you are subscribed to more than<br>
>>> one list. I will get several copies myself.<br>
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:24:06 +0000<br>
From: "Cheryl Landy, Ph.D." <<a href="mailto:drlandy@bellsouth.net">drlandy@bellsouth.net</a>><br>
Subject: [Grassroots-l] unsuscribe please<br>
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Subject: [Grassroots-l] The Information Train<br>
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Hi all,<br>
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For your information, a video with 2 computers (1 XO and a "normal" laptop)<br>
exchanging real world information provided by a train with the help of sensors<br>
and actuators.<br>
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"The Information Train"<br>
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"This movie shows the main elements of a winning entry at the "Wizards of<br>
Science 2009" scientific experiment contest. The entry demonstrates how<br>
computers communicate with each other by setting up a network in which a model<br>
train transfers a picture's pixels from one computer to the other."<br>
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Vid?o :<br>
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* <a href="http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/the-information-train/14494555" target="_blank">http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/the-information-train/14494555</a><br>
* <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXg12lGBzjQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXg12lGBzjQ</a><br>
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