[Grassroots-l] presentation on green computing

LASKE, Lionel (C2S) LLASKE at c2s.fr
Wed Dec 31 03:28:46 EST 2008



Hi Marten,

I gave a 20mn talk on the same subject in France one month ago.
The only interesting page I found on the Wiki on this subject is: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Green_Machine 
You can find my slides (in French...) on: http://myslideo.tv4it.net/article.php?id=1007 
I choose to talk about how the OLPC project match the three axis of what "Sustainable development" means (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_development): 
- Social: education project for poor children
- Environment: green machine
- Economic: cheap machine
I hope it could help.

Best regards from France.

	Lionel.




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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:28:34 +0100
From: Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl>
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Hi 

I am looking for information to give an presentation about
green computing. I am asked to talk about XO and OLPC.

http://www.nluug.nl/events/20090122groen/index.html


It will be a 30 min talk, for mainly unix admin and "greenish" people.

Layout of my talk:
- background OLPC
- tech details XO
- usage resources:
 - electricity
 - natural resources
 - network / Internet
- reuse natural resources

- human resources
  - repairing centers
  - support teams
  - packing and distributions

I am looking for schema's:
- schema's power usase per part in the XO 
- schema's power usage compared with EEE, standard laptops, standart
desktops
- clear images / foto's
- links with background information

Resources with an open license do have prevalence!

English slides + research notes will be online in a free accessible
format:

http://martenvijn.nl/svn/olpc/greencomputing/
 

thanks,
Marten













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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:18:57 +0100
From: Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl>
Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
To: Samuel Klein <sj at laptop.org>
Cc: olpc-open <olpc-open at lists.laptop.org>, OLPC Devel
	<devel at lists.laptop.org>,	Grassroots OLPC
	<grassroots at lists.laptop.org>
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On Sat, 2008-12-27 at 22:58 -0500, Samuel Klein wrote:
> Aha!  Yes, I've made that a response to the recent spot.  As for the
> comments... this is a chance to work on your skill at teaching through
> one-liners.
> There are a few other great videos up that are worth sharing where
> appropriate; Joels video of an 8 and 10-year old repairing a keyboard
> comes to mind.  For those who haven't seen it:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pus_fA1Tv9w
> 
> Project4Awesome has some tips for using YouTube to spread an idea
> [they run an annual 'take over YT for charity' day every Dec. 17] -
> http://www.projectforawesome.com/?page_id=16




> 
> SJ
> 
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:53 PM, S Page <info at skierpage.com> wrote:
> >>  the common reaction "How are kids going to use laptops in the middle of
> >> the jungle?  give them food!"
> >
> > I didn't know about "OLPC Mission: Part 2 The XO Laptop" ,
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMeX2D4AOjM
> > That video is outstanding!  I don't know how to suggest it as a stock
> > response to the doubters.
> >
> > --
> > =S
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:21:59 -0200
From: Andr?s Ambrois <andresambrois at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
To: devel at lists.laptop.org
Cc: david at lang.hm, Grassroots OLPC <grassroots at lists.laptop.org>,
	olpc-open <olpc-open at lists.laptop.org>
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On Saturday 27 December 2008 20:28:10 david at lang.hm wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, Samuel Klein wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been
> > released.  I'm curious to see reactions from the list.  If anyone
> > makes a screensaver version of the opening sequence, which I love,
> > I'll send you my first attempt at a memory-doubled XO.  I'm hoping to
> > get more details about how it was made to post as well...  It's had
> > 50,000 views (wow, make that 65k since I wrote this draft at lunch) in
> > the past day.  Details and a couple other awesome video links are up
> > on the blog.
> >  http://blog.laptop.org
>
> personal opinion here, I don't like using digital fakery to make dead
> celebreties say things that they never said (movies that are clearly
> fiction are an exception to this)
>
> In this case I think the quality of the audio splicing also leave a lot to
> be desired (but then again, I've never listened to recordings of Lennon
> talking, so it could be his real speech pattern)
>
> the other videos on the blog are very interesting. I hadn't heard of this
> blog before, thanks for the pointer.
>
> David Lang
> _______________________________________________
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  I also wouldn't feel comfortable articulating dead people imagery to make it 
seem like they said something they didn't. No matter how obvious it may seem 
that it is an actor, no matter how much his wife agrees with the statement. 

  I feel Sagan's voice in this video would have made a true a deep message: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkC7ralR30

  I would suggest Sagan's Cosmos and Pale Blue Dot passages for future ads of 
this nature. There are countless great poets out there, no need to fake them 
:)
-- 
  -Andr?s
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:55:40 +0900
From: Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki at vpri.org>
Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
To: "OLPC Devel" <devel at lists.laptop.org>,	olpc-open
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At Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:42:51 -0500,
Samuel Klein wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been
> released.  I'm curious to see reactions from the list.

  I have to agree wtih David on making a dead cerebrity say something
he didn't say.  And, while the message of "Imagine" and Lennon have
"some" overlap with the mission of OLPC, but it is not as big as one
might think.  Looking at Yoko Ono has been saying and doing, she/they
are more into new-agey, peseudo-sciencey, and not quite a good message
in conjunction with education.

  I like some of the songs, and I don't oppose to progressive art and
their activities, but I feel it awkward if people treat Lennon as a
big symbol for practical world changer and not to mention for
education.)

-- Yoshiki


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:51:25 -0600
From: Yama Ploskonka <yama at netoso.com>
Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] presentation on green computing
To: Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl>
Cc: Grassroots OLPC <grassroots at lists.laptop.org>
Message-ID: <495A437D.3000400 at netoso.com>
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Whatever you do or say, _please_ do not add more nonsense about the so 
called crank or yo-yo.  Our project is full of hype and often lacking 
substance (see the Lennon thread for a discussion on more of that), and 
the charging crank and yo-yo are magisterial examples of excellent TV, 
world-impacting (anywhere I go people ask me about those), but devoid of 
  respect for basic principles of science, that alas, keep us stuck here 
lower than the angels.

BTW, if you find what is the carbon footprint of an XO, I would want to 
know.  If I get my way the Bolivia deployment will be carbon-negative ASAP.

I did a little bit on solar in my day, see the wiki for XO_Solar. AFAIK 
it has the only numbers backed up by actual research on this subject 
(you might find around official info which comes from computer simulations)
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Solar

Yama


Marten Vijn wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> I am looking for information to give an presentation about
> green computing. I am asked to talk about XO and OLPC.
> 
> http://www.nluug.nl/events/20090122groen/index.html
> 
> 
> It will be a 30 min talk, for mainly unix admin and "greenish" people.
> 
> Layout of my talk:
> - background OLPC
> - tech details XO
> - usage resources:
>  - electricity
>  - natural resources
>  - network / Internet
> - reuse natural resources
> 
> - human resources
>   - repairing centers
>   - support teams
>   - packing and distributions
> 
> I am looking for schema's:
> - schema's power usase per part in the XO 
> - schema's power usage compared with EEE, standard laptops, standart
> desktops
> - clear images / foto's
> - links with background information
> 
> Resources with an open license do have prevalence!
> 
> English slides + research notes will be online in a free accessible
> format:
> 
> http://martenvijn.nl/svn/olpc/greencomputing/
>  
> 
> thanks,
> Marten
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:37:36 -0500
From: "Kevin Cole" <dc.loco at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
To: " Andr?s Ambrois " <andresambrois at gmail.com>
Cc: david at lang.hm, olpc-open <olpc-open at lists.laptop.org>,
	devel at lists.laptop.org, Grassroots OLPC <grassroots at lists.laptop.org>
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On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 16:21, Andr?s Ambrois <andresambrois at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also wouldn't feel comfortable articulating dead people imagery to make it
> seem like they said something they didn't. No matter how obvious it may seem
> that it is an actor, no matter how much his wife agrees with the statement.
>
> I feel Sagan's voice in this video would have made a true a deep message:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkC7ralR30
>
> I would suggest Sagan's Cosmos and Pale Blue Dot passages for future ads of
> this nature. There are countless great poets out there, no need to fake them
> :)

At first, I didn't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I see others
feel as I do.  Putting words in someone's mouth without a strong hint
of parody isn't right.  Doubly so for an individual no longer around
to agree or disagree with those words.  Although somewhat mitigated by
the fact that someone who spent a lot of time with him and should have
an inkling to how he thought, endorsed it, I don't know that I'd want
my partner giving her blessing to having my image lip-sync something I
didn't say. It leads me to ask "What other deceptions are being
perpetrated?"  (I often feel that way about coopting music for
advertising as well, as it generally ends up spoiling my love for a
particular tune to have it associated with some product.  But that's
another story.)

On the other hand, Pale Blue Dot is excellent.  After 9/11, the SETI
Institute posted an excerpt from that on their web site, which I
printed and have had hanging on my office door since then.

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:44:55 -0500
From: "Kevin Cole" <dc.loco at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids
To: david at lang.hm
Cc: olpc-open <olpc-open at lists.laptop.org>, devel at lists.laptop.org,
	Grassroots OLPC <grassroots at lists.laptop.org>
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	<d9a4a1af0812300844t3cf82cd2l650630a5b2e08311 at mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:43,  <david at lang.hm> wrote:

> Parody isn't nessasarily a requirement. The scenes in Forrest Gump where
> they have him meeting with the President isn't parody, but it's very clearly
> fiction, and a very appropriate use of this sort of technology.

Agreed.  I should have said "clearly fictional" perhaps.  I meant
somthing not intended to be believed at face value, though I recognize
that parables, fables, and the like often do have a message to impart.


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