[Etoys] Stuff to do for Sugar release 0.84

Mon Apr 6 13:38:49 EDT 2009

On 2009-04-06 06:41, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
>
>
> I did quite a bit more application testing (etoys) in 0.84. It looks 
> very good to me overall. I did notice a few things that are etoys 
> related, Some I could not duplicate though:
>
>
> Reported etoys items
> ===============
> - [Etoys-Sugar-0.84-OLPC] Soas-2009040110. Played on OLPC from a 
> stick. In morph menus, missing "export" menu item between "siblings" 
> and "extras". This is interesting because this item does exist in the 
> Etoys 4.0 image downloaded from Tinlizzie 
> http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/etoys-dev-40.zip.
> http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-212
XO  uses the Journal and export is not integrated with it I guess

>
> - [Etoys-Sugar-0.84-OLPC] Soas-2009040110. Played on OLPC from a 
> stick. Object Catalog->Multimedia->Camera does not show anything. This 
> may be a problem with Sugar, not Etoys.
> http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-213
>
>
> - [Etoys-Sugar-0.84-OLPC] Soas-2009040110. Played on OLPC from a 
> stick. No sound .using either -vm-sound-OSS or vm-sound-ALSA in 
> /usr/bin/etoys. This seems problem with Sugar, not Etoys. The driver 
> is loaded yet I do not hear any sound in any Sugar activities.
> http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-214
>
>
> - I agree a Home button is needed. Already reported by Bert/Scott. 
> http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-165.

Sounds good.

Karl

>
>
> Unreported etoys items (could not produce steps to duplicate)
> =====================================
>
> - had a weird problem when renaming projects in the Sugar. (red name 
> over another project black name)
>
> - Event Theatre, when recording complex process that included long 
> script building, did not replay correctly. Must have missed some 
> events along the way.
>
> Bert, I have a few more notes below inline.
>
>
> On April 3, 2009, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > On 03.04.2009, at 08:36, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> > > ok, after fighting with virtualbox emulation (and eventually giving
> > > up), and incomplete SuSE Sugar version (also gave up, thanks Bert
> > > for suggestions there), I am testing Etoys in Sugar 0.84 installed
> > > on a stick right on the OLPC XO.
> >
> > Yay!
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> >
> > > Over all Etoys on 0.84 look good, but I will have to do more testing
> > > this weekend, so far I see:
> > >
> > > Sugar Interaction Problems
> > > ====================
> > >
> > > - If there are any Etoys activities in the Journal, the last actvity
> > > is picked up when I start Etoys from the menu Circle. This way, I
> > > can never see Etoys initial screen. I think this is what Bert
> > > mentioned. It is really annoying behavior, I assume it changed
> > > because of some changes in the Sugar container. This is really the
> > > only item I would (personally) consider a bad bug / behaviour. Can
> > > anyone make a rough comment what would need to be done to change this?
> >
> > Well, you can still open a fresh Etoys instance from the activities
> > screen by moving your mouse to the Etoys icon, do not click but wait
> > until the little black label appears, do still not click but wait
> > until the label expands to a menu, and then click the "start" menu item.
> >
> > But this is rather awkward, indeed. The best idea so far was to have a
> > "home" button that would take you to the launcher screen:
> >
> > https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9282
>
>
>
> yes, I agree this is a good addition to Sugar version after the changes.
>
>
>
> >
> > > - Etoys do not have Ctrl-Q / Ctrl-S for Quit / Save on the top right
> > > Controls.
> >
> > Not quite sure what you mean hear ...
> >
>
>
>
> I ment to say other Activities seems to have a Ctrl-Q shortcut for the 
> "Stop" button and Ctrl-S to "Keep".
>
>
>
> > > - In shared mode, on the "network screen", Etoys is listed as
> > > "Gallery" (very minor)
> >
> > Interesting ... it used to show "/usr/share/etoys/etoys.image":
> >
> > https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8251
>
>
>
> actually it now shows the etoys project name which is reasonable. So 
> maybe the bug can be closed. I looked at it when I worked with the 
> Gallery of projects.
>
>
>
> >
> > > - when not connected to the network, and switching to shared mode, a
> > > DBus Error Debug Screen appears.
> >
> > That should be handled nicer indeed.
> >
> > > - There is no sound - but I think there is be no sound on the OLPC
> > > running 0.84 from the stick
> >
> > That might very well be this problem:
> >
> > http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7328
> >
> > If so, a workaround would be to switch to OSS in the /usr/bin/etoys
> > script (add -vm-sound-OSS to the VM options).
>
>
> I tried both OSS and ALSA, but none worked. The sound driver (ac97) is 
> loaded but I have not heard any sound from any activity onnthe XO, 
> including the speach activity. So I speculate it is Sugar 0.84 
> related. Documented in a bug just in case -
>
>
> >
> > > >
> > > Etoys Problems (very little Etoys specific testing so far):
> > > ============
> > >
> > > - sound does not work(Sugar/OLPC Hardware at fault?)
> >
> > See above
> >
> > > - video does not work(?Sugar/Hardware at fault?)
> >
> > For GStreamer you need a new VM, too. I think that's the only video
> > option we have on Linux.
>
>
>
> Where can I get the new VM .. I guess it is time to learn how to do 
> that...
>
>
> >
> > > >
> > - Bert -
>
>
> Milan
>
>
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