[Etoys] Another Etoys on XO testemonial

Hilaire Fernandes hilaire at ofset.org
Thu Nov 20 08:35:05 EST 2008

When you see the shining face of these children, you really fell there
are a lot of value in this project.


2008/11/20 Greg Smith <gregsmitholpc at gmail.com>:
> Hi Bert,
> The cursor control is much improved in releases after build 656 (e.g. in
> release 8.2 = build 767). So getting people upgraded off 656 is a quick
> win in terms of reducing cursor jumpiness.
> That said, there is new hardware coming and we believe it will reduce
> the occurrence of this issue even more.
> In terms of when the new touchpad will be available, I don't know the
> exact date. I believe its a matter of some weeks from now but I don't
> have the final word.
> BTW, what I'm suggesting on the cursor size is to allow the user to pick
> it. In my primitive view, everything in Etoys (or is it Squeak?) can be
> changed via tweaking variables (objects?). Make the cursor size and
> maybe a variable which is easily accessible and documented and you can
> pass the buck to the user :-)
> Thanks,
> Greg S
> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> On 20.11.2008, at 13:50, Greg Smith wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> FYI here is another link I saw recently about people using eToys with
>>> the XO. Interestingly, they used the tutorials on your web site to great
>>> effect.
>>> http://blog.laptopmag.com/olpc-mali-collaboration-emerges-as-the-program-winds-down
>> Nice :)
>>> I see one feature requests in there about allowing people to change the
>>> size of the cursor. Since everything can be modified on the fly, I
>>> imagine that is possible already. If so you may want to document it
>>> somewhere and if not you may want to add it.
>> Well, there actually is a preference indeed to enable the big cursor,
>> and it is of course enabled on the XO for its 200 dpi screen (the
>> regular 16 pixels-tall cursor is *tiny*). We already made the cursor
>> quite a bit smaller and pointier than Eben's Sugar default cursor. But
>> maybe it's still too large ...
>> Takashi, what do you think?
>>> I'm not sure what version of the XO they had in Mali but I would guess
>>> that its an old one with cursor control problems which have been
>>> minimized in later releases.
>> Well, the touchpad seems to be the single biggest annoyance of the
>> current hardware. I noticed that the Waveplace pilots in the Carribean
>> actually provided USB mice to children. Any idea when the new touchpad
>> goes into production?
>> - Bert -
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