[Etoys] First version of BotsInc for ODLP and feedback requested.

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Sun Sep 23 12:44:57 EDT 2007

On Sep 23, 2007, at 8:55 , stephane ducasse wrote:

> On 22 sept. 07, at 16:53, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> On Sep 20, 2007, at 15:39 , stephane ducasse wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> in between painting and renovating my new house I'm working on  
>>> the botsinc environment for the ODLP.
>>> I got a project working. I removed all the behavior related to  
>>> file and other aspects.
>>> Can someone have a look at tell me what I should improve?
>> I started the project from a USB stick, that worked fine. Took  
>> about 45 seconds to load on a B4.
> Oops
>> The major problem is that after saving to the journal, it cannot  
>> be loaded again because the classes are missing.
> Strange, do you mean that I forgot to add to the changeset some  
> classes. This is strange since I just attached the cs to one
> (may be the class missing is a squeak class.)
>> Apparently they were not saved in the project again. If you find  
>> the time it would be helpful to install an XO emulator so you can  
>> test under Sugar yourself.
> Sure I would love to. Where can I find Sugar? and XO emulator?
> Thanks for your kindness. I have nearly finish to renovate one room  
> and we are all sleeping in a large one.

See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulation

I think the latest OS image might just work - download it from


(get the one ending in _ext3.img.bz2 )

>> The default pen width is only one pixel which is too thin for the  
>> XO display. Also, some fonts are too small, that may be fixed when  
>> we change the default fonts as in
>> 	https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/3546
> Ok I will fix that.

Well, as I said, we need to fix that, maybe you don't.

>>> What is the process to get a project included in the project list?
>> There is no formal process yet.
>>> Are there guidelines about what I should pay attention to?
>> Well it needs to work under Sugar and on the XO, and hopefully  
>> should be self-documenting. Adding some introduction in a help  
>> flap would be good I think. And we need to think about translating.
> Ok I will try to find my way.

- Bert -

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