New eToys [Was: Re: [Etoys] EToys question -- clearly I'm missing some key concept]

Alan Kay alan.kay at squeakland.org
Sat Jan 27 14:07:26 EST 2007


This doesn't help that much with school districts ...

Cheers,

Alan

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At 09:47 AM 1/27/2007, Brad Fuller wrote:
>Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> > On 2007 January 26 09:19, Alan Kay wrote:
> >> Hi Milan --
> >>
> >> At 11:07 PM 1/25/2007, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> >>> Hi Alan,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the article, very interesting. For the eventual delivery
> >>> mechanism it would be a great "trojan horse" (in a good sense of course)
> >>> if the plugin, when not yet installed, could install itself as 1-click on
> >>> the page, without having to download and install an .exe or .rpm. (That
> >>> is really not relevant to OLPC because it can come with the system there,
> >>> but great for rest of browser users).
> >> Unfortunately browsers don't work that way. If JS and DOM were as
> >> capable and fast as Squeak this would be easy. But the very reason we
> >> have to download an executable plugin to run Squeak/Etoys is that the
> >> capabilities of the browser are still lacking.
> >
> > I was not really advocating not using Squeak I like it :) - just a
> > no-separate-download/1-click install. I guess one way to achieve 
> 1 click (or
> > no click) install of Squeak would be to make vendors ship Squeak with the
> > browser like Java, but that's hard. I thougt there must be another way to
> > achieve 1-click install, I wonder how Flash installs on Windows, 
> it seems to
> > install only with a click without separate download (if the plugin is not
> > originally installed) but I do not know how it's achieved and whether same
> > could be done for Squeak.
>
>What would be helpful is that if squeak could get on lists like this:
>
>
>https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/plugins/
>
>
>--
>brad fuller
>www.bradfuller.com
>
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